Welcome to the official/unoffical England vs Ukraine match thread, hopefully this works better than friday when diva stole my thunder
Admins could you live and multiboard this article please
http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewLiveArticle/152316
Team news:
England (4-2-3-1) one change from our resounding 5-0 away win to modolva with everton's Phil Jagielka coming in for the injured John terry
1.Joe Hart
2. Glen Johnson
3. Ashley Cole
4. Steven Gerrard (C)
5. Phil Jagielka
6. Joleon Lescott
7. James Milner
8. Frank Lampard
9. Jermaine Defoe
10.Tom Cleverley
11.Alex Oxlade-Chamberlin
subs: Walker, Ruddy, Bertand, Cahill, Carrick, Livermore, Lallana, Sturridge, Welbeck, Sterling, Butland
Ukraine have yet to play a game so far in this group, and will be interesting to see how they cope without the retired Andriy Shevchenko.
Ukraine starting XI
Piatov
Gusiev
Khacheridi
Rakitskyy
Selin
Tymoshchuk (C)
Garmash
Yarmolenko
Rotan
Knonoplianka
Zozulia
TV, ITV1, which means Adrian Chiles and co. ...........
Demba's pointless stat; The last time England lost a world cup qualifier was to Ukraine in Kiev.
Rules
feel free to talk about other games
everyone is welcome
no inter-club rivalry
be fickle
be excited about the new promising partnership of Lampard and Gerrard
enjoy the game
Live: England 1-1 Ukraine
posted on 11/9/12
When Evans first came in as a teenager he stood out from all of our players. I think he's gonna be an excellent player.
posted on 11/9/12
If you draw, at home, against Ukraine, and only manage to get that draw from a pen in the last 5 mins, you deserve slating.
Nothing wrong with slating. Better then pretending everything is fine and every tackle is fair.
posted on 11/9/12
He's so good TOOR
posted on 11/9/12
still 3rd best in the world
posted on 11/9/12
Yes and if you lose with all the youngest do you slate them?
posted on 11/9/12
I doubt he'll ever play as a proper CM.
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Cesc is not a central midfield player. Thats why he now only makes the Barca bench. Cesc was being trained on the wing at the same age as well.
Oxlade's passing and spatial awareness are very good. Thats the basic skill required in a central attacking midfield. He is 19. His game is very similar to Cesc at the same age. The only difference is that Cesc was a little more creative in judging when to pass or dribble. Oxlade is of course faster than Cesc. Lets wait and see.
Oxlade is not a winger. And by playing Milner, Oxlade and Cleverly, I suspect Woy knows this and is doing it because England were heavily criticized for being able to retain the ball. By playing 3 central midfield players Woy probably hopes to make up for Lampard and Gerrard. Its an interesting experiment. The only problem is that Gerrard/Lampard don't have the goal scoring ability from deep they used to 5 years ago. So we have fewer goals in us as a team.
posted on 11/9/12
youngsters *
posted on 11/9/12
I know Lampard and Gerrard have been slated for not showing their best for England but individually I do think they have offered and do offer things that I don't currently see with the new batch of youngsters apart from perhaps Wilshere. Gerrard has shown he still has a great range of passing, and Lampard is always a threat outside the box with the kind of chances Cleverley was messing up. The new batch need to improve a lot.
posted on 11/9/12
Of course. Not slating but constructive critisicms.
posted on 11/9/12
Wow somebody who can give credit where it's due. You are one of a very small number.