Andy Murray

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I didn't say that though did I

comment by Mummy (U10045)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 1 minute ago
St3vie , fair playYou did stipulate "some No voters"

even so , its peoples right to vote as they so please - they should not be shot down for fear of change - if thats is indeed their reason
Thier vote is thier vote , i or you or anyone else should have no right to question it
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What's the point in campaigning or debating it then?
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Campaigning and debating is very different to telling someone their own opinions and reasons are wrong

there is no right or wrong in this , its your vote you do as you please with it

I can change the word choice to positive if you prefer?

What's wrong with having an aspiration to live in a country that chooses it's on government?

I quoted aspirational/positive reasons for no are they less valid too then?

comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Mummy (U10045)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 1 minute ago
St3vie , fair playYou did stipulate "some No voters"

even so , its peoples right to vote as they so please - they should not be shot down for fear of change - if thats is indeed their reason
Thier vote is thier vote , i or you or anyone else should have no right to question it
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What's the point in campaigning or debating it then?
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Campaigning and debating is very different to telling someone their own opinions and reasons are wrong

there is no right or wrong in this , its your vote you do as you please with it





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Actually that's exactly what campaigning and debating is.

Of course it is your vote and I respect that. I was talking too generally (based on my own experiences with other no voters) on my prior comments and for that I apologise.

You're a good guy CT and don't mean to cause offence.

comment by Mummy (U10045)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Mummy (U10045)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 1 minute ago
St3vie , fair playYou did stipulate "some No voters"

even so , its peoples right to vote as they so please - they should not be shot down for fear of change - if thats is indeed their reason
Thier vote is thier vote , i or you or anyone else should have no right to question it
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What's the point in campaigning or debating it then?
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Campaigning and debating is very different to telling someone their own opinions and reasons are wrong

there is no right or wrong in this , its your vote you do as you please with it





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Actually that's exactly what campaigning and debating is.

Of course it is your vote and I respect that. I was talking too generally (based on my own experiences with other no voters) on my prior comments and for that I apologise.

You're a good guy CT and don't mean to cause offence.
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Dont be daft....No offence taken, i'll still sook ye off

comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Mummy (U10045)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Mummy (U10045)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 1 minute ago
St3vie , fair playYou did stipulate "some No voters"

even so , its peoples right to vote as they so please - they should not be shot down for fear of change - if thats is indeed their reason
Thier vote is thier vote , i or you or anyone else should have no right to question it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What's the point in campaigning or debating it then?
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Campaigning and debating is very different to telling someone their own opinions and reasons are wrong

there is no right or wrong in this , its your vote you do as you please with it





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Actually that's exactly what campaigning and debating is.

Of course it is your vote and I respect that. I was talking too generally (based on my own experiences with other no voters) on my prior comments and for that I apologise.

You're a good guy CT and don't mean to cause offence.
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Dont be daft....No offence taken, i'll still sook ye off

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Let me just clean up and I'll be good to go

comment by rats juice - WELEASE WOCKET!!! Winston (U16525) yer still a pw!ck (U6393)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 18 minutes ago
Many Yes voters are scheidting themselves at the prospect of a No vote too though
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Not much changes for them though , they dont stand to lose thier jobs in such a result for instance
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I disagree. Politics HAS changed over the course of this debate. UKiP are now changing UK politics, plus other parts of the 'Union' are pressing for their own devolution. Plus all the threats coming from daaaahn saaaaf ain't pleasant. Plus the plans already in place may well go ahead after a No vote. There are many reasons for fear, justified or not.
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Not sure what is going on in N Ireland but in the case if Wales very little is happening...

The Tories probably have more support in Wales than independence!

Can't see much in the way of pushing for greater devolution, at least related to the Scottish independence campaign.

SAF

Your NI expert here,buddy.

Sinn Fein and the sdlp have already stated they want a border poll referendum,and will push for this after the Scottish vote,either way.

I think many Welsh folk crave more devo,and some want to go indy,but they know the economy is too small,like Ulster's,sadly.

England will now become more regional,and a federal system is on the way for the UK.

What threats emanate from da saaf,as the English are being very civil,and asking the rest of the UK to stay.Weird how Cameron,G Brown and co. get slated for wishing to promote unity.
It is the snp who are splitters,imo.

Cheers Tbbab, more Devo isn't something that is being too loudly called for, could probably pass but isn't something that is being loudly called for.

Indy is a very unpopular idea in Wales, I think a fair bit of noise is being made by the nationalists down here.