Could this be what Jerome heard?
"il ragazzo nero mi gomitate"
Just listened on Google translate and it sounds a possibility.
"The black guy elbowed me"
posted on 23/10/14
ive actually defended you on more than 1 occasion Luvr, and until yesterday I had no run ins with you at all.
until you can see that what you wrote yesterday in your article, and the comments you made on the article are actually 2 different things then its impossible to actually debate this situation with you.
Sorry mate!!!
posted on 23/10/14
luvr - if people do think he's guilty (which they're entitled to do) then many on here are big enough to admit they're wrong.
Many would expect us to lose a particular game. Doesn't mean they're pleased if we do lose it.
If Bullusci is found guilty, it doesn't necessarily put Cellino to shame. Good leaders can come out of adverse situations with significant credit.
What you're saying makes no sense in my opinion.
posted on 23/10/14
That's ok Warwick,
it will in time. Don't hold your breath on expecting some to admit they're wrong.
Jud,
you copied and pasted two of the paragraphs, and accused me of supporting Bellusci's racial slur, which also shows that you believed he actually made the slur, you, and others hung him based on hear say before knowing the facts.
Yes they were different cos they came under different headings,
It was an analysis, there were no admissions of being racist, or I supported Belluscis alleged racial slur or I supported racism.
I know what I wrote, and why I wrote them.
The attacks came because people didn't read the article for what it actually was, but some chose, and I say made the choice to attack me and what I wrote.
I also know that there are those who genuinely misinterpreted what I wrote.
Are you aware the word IF was used and changes the context of a sentence or paragraph.
You then went on to call me re-tarded, which is an unlawfull slur in itself which shows total hypocrisy, and that insinuates I have the same inabilities and disabilities as people who are mentally disabled, which, is also a slur against people with mental disabilities.
It's now been said the word allegedly used was negro, this word is not classed as being racist in general.
I'm aware you've defended me in past Jud, as I have you, but I'm entitled to my opinions and views on here, as are you and others without any abusive attacks.
I'm also aware that there are a certain few who have an obsessive hatred for me, of course there are those who have an obsessive hatred for Cellino too, I'm quite happy to sail in Cellinos boat along side him, he's now paid the tax on one.
The abuse from a certain some doesn't worry me, there is a saying within the psychological world "someone who continually tries to degrade you is someone who hasn't and can't"
I can hold my own on here Jud against those who have an obsessive hatred against me, but some would'ave probably forgotten why because there obsessive hatred now controls them.
You will also have seen the sensible debates, agreed with, agreed partly with or disagreed with, between myself and other sensible posters/commenter's.
I'll also defend anyone who gets abused by these few abusers, there's no need for it no matter what anyone writes. I'm also aware of the underlying covered up abuse designed to be seen as so called genuine comments.
Certain some don't know that body language can be read physically, in letters/text on net, and from vocal and audio sounds
I'm sorry too pal. but I stand by and support Bellusci untill, and if he's found guilty.
posted on 23/10/14
I am sorry mate but that is wrong.
You still do not understand what it is that I was arguing against.
Not in 1 single comment did I hang Bellusci, and said on at least 5 or 6 occasions, that I am with you in the fact that he is innocent until proven guilty.
You said you analysed the situation, which you actually didn't.
What you did was give excuses as to why he may have made the remark & then gave reasons why it would have been Jeromes fault if he had.
This is the last I'll speak to you about it pal, I actually think we have the same view point but you cannot understand that, that viewpoint isn't what you wrote your article about.
I read it probably 8 or 9 times yesterday, and again today and I still believe you have confused yourself somewhere along the line.
Have a good day
posted on 23/10/14
You too Jud.
posted on 23/10/14
Now, of course, the issue is that Cellino is picking and choosing his morality. Racism versus tax evasion? Which is better, which is worse? Does a tax evader have the right to hold any moral judgment over someone else who mayu beliueve that paying taxes is absolutely the right thing to do in every circumstance but is equivalent of BNP?
I don't know, but being a staunch atheist, "let he who hath no sin, cast the first stone"
My perosnal views?
1. I like Bellusci as a player, but if he did it, he can f off somewhere else. I hope he didn't. Racism is a personality trait.
2. Tax evasion is something else. It is a "let's try it on" crime that everyone does (anyone paid someone in cash?), and if you are caught out you pay the due penalty. But it does not deserve expulsion
posted on 24/10/14
LTS, do you or your family use the NHS, do you believe there should be support for disabled people, people without job, people on the deadline? Should we invest in schools and care about our kids future? This is what taxes pay. If you should be paying a large amount of tax and evade it, you are contributing to the destruction of all the things that make our society great. It's a hideous, hideous crime.
posted on 24/10/14
Breadline that shoulda said, not deadline. I'm thinking about my work, that I pay taxes on.
posted on 24/10/14
Off topic slightly but Italy now include the Black Economy (no pun intended) in their economic output figures.
Strange world as all that money would be evading tax I guess.
posted on 24/10/14
Tortoise - you never answered my question - have you ever paid anyone in cash? Is anyone on here whiter than white and has no sin?
The issue is about degree of crime, from your point of view. Is racism better or worse or equal to tax evasion? All when caught must pay the price, but what is the price?
I have given my view - you have not provided one.
Is holding the goalkeeper at a corner so that a teammate can head the ball home better or worse than deliberate handball to punch the ball in the net? Are nasty words worse than kicking someone? Is a fist-fight on the pitch worse than a Berardi kung fu kick to the chest?