The usual lies/u turns from Cellino

Jonty it's the prerogative of every human being on Earth to be able to change your mind, it's a natural state of mind to change your mind.

What's wrong with changing your mind?

To me it's not a question of integrity more a question of judgement...football judgement in choices made of players and managers...so many don't have that nous, those that do are worth their weight in gold, only the richest clubs can afford them.
The rest of us can only hope and pray we engage a good manager, but most of the time most of us are wise after the event, as another manager bites the dust.

NJS, nothing wrong with changing one's mind, but we've both been around the block enough times to know that some folk do that continually and they're completely unreliable at best.

Cellino had a massive reputation for it in Italy and he's showing it here too.

You;re right about the poor judgement, in fact Hockaday was shocking judgement and Darko wan't much better, but the lack of integrity is there too and I believe it's that which will ultimately cost Leeds big time.

Jonty.

Not as clear as me saying I don't think this is to do with integrety shows I am not talking about integrity!

Great artists (painters, musicians and writers) continually change their minds...my opinion is that great managers, chairman even, great footballers change their minds....only average people never change their minds or stubbornly stick to the same line.

Let Cellino change is mind until the right solution to the problem is found, he's not intellectually challenged is he?

He's the owner he's allowed to make policy and change his mind.

Unfortunately, Cellino is not an artist, he's running a business.

Changing your mind continually is just not conducive to running a successful club.

Same as the chairman of a high street store using his integrity to sack managers who don't come up to scratch
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Chairmen of high street stores don't start recruiting from the bottom of the barrel.

I didn't say Cellino was an artist, the context I used stands.

"Bottom of the barrel"is just subjective opinion, you being wise after the event...easy jibes...and no one knows whether all the managers sacked in recent times would have turned out successfully had they been given time?

NJS, don't all opinions have a measure of subjectivity? If you, or I, were capable of accurate foresight we'd be headhunted by a multiple bunch of faltering enterprises keen to profit from our talents. Why you've mentioned recently sacked managers is a mystery. If you want a successful manager, you'd look at younger managers who are punching above their weight with scant resources, and tempt them to come to Leeds. Nobble them.

NJS: there were actually plenty of people being wise 'before' the event though, weren't there? A lot of posters were worried about both appointments when they occurred, hence Jamie's comment (I think!)

And Jonty, as posted elsewhere, I'm think 'liar' is an overly emotive word. In my opinion, Cellino's biggest problem isn't that he lies or makes U-turns regularly, it's that he makes decisions and pronouncements without thinking them through properly.

Same outcome, different cause. But equally bad for Leeds United, I'm afraid.

Tedd, certainly agree he doesn't think things through, but track record of fraud etc means there is a demonstrated propensity to lie.

We hear that Mccormack refused to train, then we hear he's actually having a medical etc etc.

Smith gets given a new contract, next minute he's sold and he is the surprised of anyone.

Pretending he didn't know where BM was etc etc

I think he's economical with the truth at best.

But like you say, whichever way you look at it it;s not good for us.

The frustrating thing is that he has great potential, knows the game and business around it, has a club with massive potential and fanbase, but alienating governing body and trying to use Cagliari model will hold us back.