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Celtic 1 Salzburg 3

Gordon - made a good save but felt he could have been more commanding, his kicking is attrocious.

Matthews - shadow of the player he was, needs game time to regain confidence and form, him and lustig were neck and neck before, he can get it back. last night he got better as the game went on.

Dijk - played reasonably well, still far too casual in europe for my liking, never a sprint or a slide tackle.

Ambrose - guy behind me was giving him it stinking, everything was efes fault, but I thought he did alright tbh. made a lot of interceptions, pressed high up the park but tried a couple to dodgy cross field passes, the one thing I will say is he tried to be creative because he had to, the midfield, particularly mulgrew werent dropping deep enough to get the ball.

Izzy - got an assist but his crossing is absolutely woeful, poor defensively and didn’t do enough going forward for me.

Brown - chased down, pressed and worked hard.

Mulgrew - I honestly don’t know what he brings, he doesn’t attack and he doesn’t win tackles, doesn’t drop deep to collect from the defence to stop ambrose having to push forward. I honestly don’t know what he is meant to offer. won headers, that’s about it.

Johansen - took his goal well, didn’t give there back line peace, some poor passing and touches but worked hard

Macgregor - pi.sh, done nothing, needs rested or played in his proper position.

stokes - worked hard, tracked back, but just isnt good enough for this level, an honest performance but we need better. set pieces are dreadful.

Griffiths - thought he looked better on the wing than through the middle, worked his socks off but another who I think isnt good enough for that level.

subs -

Tonev - he actually looked pretty sharp and decent when he came on, was impressed

commons - I don’t think he had a touch

forrest - tried but lacked sharpness, that will come with games.

I think 3-1 flattered red bull tbh, after the first 20 minutes I was dreading the rest, but we came into it after that and tbh I think a draw would have been fairer, need to create more chances on goal and that’s where the attack lets us down, midfield need to press higher as well.

Salzburg are the level we want to be at, shut down teams quick, have fast attacking players, we have too many slow and workmanlike players in our team just now, need more runners and more creative players.

on our defence, punt VVD in jan and sort something with denayer for next year, are we keeping him on another year or not, if not get defenders in and get them settled for next year, I'm fed up going into the qualifiers with guys who have walked in the door and don’t know the names of their team mates.

hopefully keep guidetti for the next round…

posted on 28/11/14

Lustig has had something like 5 assists in 2 seasons compare to izzys 16 odd. lustig is a cracking athlete izzy is the better player.

This season so far I think he has had 4 assists in total keny. How many has lustig had...1.

comment by JFK (U8919)

posted on 28/11/14

how many in the league

posted on 28/11/14

Stats mean nothing really and can be twisted to suit , judge a player on what you see in him

what difference how many assists either player had ?

That player requires someone else to stick the ball in the net for him in order to gain the assist so its all relative

For example , izzy should have had 2 assists for last night alone

comment by JFK (U8919)

posted on 28/11/14

my point is CT for the amount of crosses izzy puts in a game, and im saying minimum 5 or 6 he should probably have more assist.

does that come to him or the strikers? bit of both.

posted on 28/11/14

what difference how many assists either player had ?
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Easy way to measure their contribution.

Good players at celtic get stick despite contributing a lit to the club. Guys like izzy and commons are stand outs. Guys like lustig who are in terms of talent average get lauded as top quality because they have a cool mustache.

posted on 28/11/14

comment by JFK - Faithful through and through (U8919)
posted 38 seconds ago
my point is CT for the amount of crosses izzy puts in a game, and im saying minimum 5 or 6 he should probably have more assist.

does that come to him or the strikers? bit of both.
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But there are too many factors involved for it to be as cut and dried as that

keepers making saves and positioning
defenders positioning and if they are likely to win the header or not
Strikers execution
Lucky bounces ..etc etc

posted on 28/11/14

Commons is standing out for all the wrong reasons this season Chu

posted on 28/11/14

Talking about over all contribution to the club. We've more than got our moneys worth out of commons.

posted on 28/11/14

comment by Lysander Deila - 'Eres yer state aid. (U18726)
posted 40 seconds ago
. We've more than got our moneys worth out of commons.
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true , his contribution up until now has been great

There just comes a time though

posted on 28/11/14

Agree.

The stick he gets is pretty unfair tho.

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