Do Spurs fans respect Wenger in a strict footballing sense?
I'm not talking about his general off the field ishness of course. Or the refusal to shake other managers hands after games etc.
From my perspective, I actually do rate him as a manager, and respect the success he has brought to Arsenal for numerous reasons. I get the impression that many of his biggest detractors now are from within the Arsenal fanbase, not the supporters of other clubs.
- Constantly finishing top without the financial resources of Chelsea, United and City (and even Liverpool) is not be sniffed at. However you cut it, it's an achievement of sorts.
- Arsenal fans are generally whining cry babies. It is not without reason they are generally regarded at the worst supporters in the league. I cannot think of another group of supporters who made one of their own players cry [Eboue] or have fans running on the pitch to square up to the manager. The Wenger Out ones seem to have forgotten that Wenger won them the FA Cup only a matter of months ago. To the WOBs it is like this moment never happened. Erased from history immediately.
- I get the impression that lots of Arsenal's supporters only really got into football during the season he won the double or the "invincibles" side. As such, their expectations are pretty wide of the mark. Wenger was never going to be able to replicate what he did in those first few seasons because it was pretty exceptional.
Thoughts?
Do you rate Wenger as a mangaer?
posted on 25/1/15
Raptors revenge
posted on 25/1/15
First 8/9 years, he was very good. After that, his deficiencies showed when he decided it would be a good idea to get rid of the ageing invincible players entirely from the club and replace them with youngsters. He has also mismanaged some of the financial resources he's had at his disposal, mainly through our reported egalitarian pay structure. The emergence of City and Chelsea was obviously through no fault of his own and was unforeseen, but he struggled to adapt his methods and persisted with a philosophy and formation which we simply didn't have the players to suit. His refusal to accept this was why we got sussed out so easily by the big sides and its why younger, innovative managers have got the better of him in recent times.
To sum up, his overall managerial career has been good but in my books, he will always be a mile off the truly great managers of the game.
posted on 25/1/15
Well we aren't going to rate him as a player are we.
posted on 25/1/15
Best manager of all time
posted on 25/1/15
comment by 9bit (U19964)
posted 8 seconds ago
Best manager of all time
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I wouldn't say that personally, but he has definitely showed his persistence, loyalty and he has battled against criticism all of these years. A extremely good manager to say the least.
posted on 25/1/15
He is not the longest serving manager in the country cos he is a mug is he?
posted on 25/1/15
His employers are mugs.
posted on 26/1/15
His mojo has gone. His first 9yrs or so were immense, he seemed to have a real Midas touch for finding very good players, at reasonable prices, who were perfectly suited physically and mentally for English football.
The players he gets now generally seem to be much flakier characters, and not as imposing physically either. Hence he's a hare, not a greyhound nowadays
posted on 26/1/15
he bought alot of change's to the english game...inheritied prob's the best back 4/5 ever assembled and built around it with stunning results.
his longevity is a testament to his talents and now they appear to be able to finance big money signings again...he really has no excuses now not to be near the top of league and challenging on all fronts again.
still hate arsenal...but admire and respect the way they go about things and how AW sticks to his pricipals.
so really dont get the AW out brigade.
posted on 26/1/15
comment by Samir - #WengerOutSince2011 (U2630)
posted 1 day ago
First 8/9 years, he was very good.
He was more than very good he was facking amazing and the job he did from 05-13 to keep us top 4 with financial stadium restrictions was a miracle
After that, his deficiencies showed when he decided it would be a good idea to get rid of the ageing invincible players entirely from the club and replace them with youngsters.
Hmmm funny how he only had to change policy when these restrictions were placed upon him by the new stadium he didnt choose to do anything he was forced to do it to keep us from financial disaster
He has also mismanaged some of the financial resources he's had at his disposal, mainly through our reported egalitarian pay structure.
He more than made up for it by keeping us top 4 every season and having to make 30m profit to keep us a float
The emergence of City and Chelsea was obviously through no fault of his own and was unforeseen, but he struggled to adapt his methods and persisted with a philosophy and formation which we simply didn't have the players to suit. His refusal to accept this was why we got sussed out so easily by the big sides and its why younger, innovative managers have got the better of him in recent times.
To sum up, his overall managerial career has been good but in my books, he will always be a mile off the truly great managers of the game.
He is one of the greatest managers of all time only a hater would call him only good but you reckon Rodgers is a better manager than him so we can dismiss your nonsense opinion immediately