Walcott: No bust up, no contract talks...

" Man Utd then won on their base of English players, Beckham, Giggs, Scholes etc."

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Scholes - Wilshere
Keane - Ramsey
Beckham - Oxlade Chamberlain
G. & P. Neville - Jenkinson, Gibbs

The real truth here is none of our current British players are of a similar level as those guys were while they were sweeping all before them, both domestically and in Europe.

Winning trophies is what increases global commercial revenue. Add to that the Beckham factor, and that's the main reason why our respective revenue steams have diverged so much since the 90s.

Winning trophies is what increases global commercial revenue. Add to that the Beckham factor, and that's the main reason why our respective revenue steams have diverged so much since the 90s.
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I was comparing our successful years to Man Utd successful years and frankly there is NO question that Man Utd attracted a huge amount of commercial revenue based on an English team based in England compared to a French team in London. And btw that was acknowledged by Edelman in a AGM years ago (when I used to attend). Beckham was created. He didn't appear from money heaven.

And its great to name players like Gibbs, Jenko etc. I was very enthusiastic about the British core but lets face it Wenger will never back any of them as he has the likes of Giroud, or Denilson, Eboue in the past.

comment by Lexington Sanchez 125.2 (U8879)
posted 23 hours, 47 minutes ago
"I am sentencing Ozil for having dinner and relaxation with friends in nightclub..."

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Not sure if this is a serious comment or not, but, in case it is, surely you can see the difference between the physical excursions playing football for 90+ minutes, and asking a waiter for a menu?
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Stop being facetious and read the entire comment. I said it does NOT matter what Ozil did because he is not a drinker. What Wenger did however was to make an innocent night out into an incident because he did not want to be accused of not playing his strongest team had we dropped points. That a sign of weakness that Wenger has started to show.

Sorry, but you're just assuming all this. There is absolutely nothing to back claims that Wenger will look to his 'internal market' if Walcott goes.
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So are YOU. Thats the whole point. We are both speculating on what Wenger will do. You have already kicked Walcott out of the door ffs. So has the blog you quote a lot.

I am just speculating on Wenger's past behaviour. You have suggested that Walcott has to fight to get back into the team because there is NO place for him. And as his contract is coming for renewal you have construed the events to suggest that Wenger will sell him.

So Walcott's position is redundant. Why exactly will he buy to fill a place that is already filled? Ridiculous.

J99,

What has Wenger done and what was the final stroke ?

I'm not his biggest fan but it seems like he can't do anything right in yours eyes lately?

comment by In Welbeck We Trust (U10012)
posted 21 minutes ago
J99,

What has Wenger done and what was the final stroke ?

I'm not his biggest fan but it seems like he can't do anything right in yours eyes lately?
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What pushed me over the edge? It started with RVP. Then his poor buying since then and I suppose Cesc left me teetering on the edge. The whole 'I promised him he will play' Welbeck, Coq, not dropping Mertesacker till it was so obvious, etc hasn't helped. And the closer we get to Chelsea fills me with anger that what if he had done what was so obvious in the summer we could have really challenged, even won it at the end.

And I feel Wenger is picking players on contracts, keeping some happy etc rather than merit or seeing what was needed. I just don't have the faith in Wenger to see the problem and to solve it in the summer.

I believe its a type of fools gold. We are always two players away from challenging and will be the same again next year. I think he has far too much power and frankly you cannot do dual roles.

"I was comparing our successful years to Man Utd successful years..."

Man United successful years: 1992 - 2012
Arsenal successful years: 1997 - 2004

It's not hard to spot the main reason behind the divergence of Man U and Arsenal's revenue income. Added to that the fact that it could be argued that, successful though those years were for Arsenal, they were still punching above their weight. Compare that to Man United, who even prior to Ferguson's success were a bigger name globally than George Graham's Arsenal.

And so to use the British thing as an excuse is pretty poor of Edelman. Tbh I'm surprised you of all people bought it at the time, let alone still put any credence to it, especially given the times you've posted how the Arsenal board underestimated the commercial side of things. Or is it the case that Arsenal board members only 'talk rubbish' when they say something you don't agree with?

What I will agree with you on is Wenger's apparent reluctance at times to blood British youngsters in preference to foreign 'talent'. But then, how many of those players have really gone on to hit the heights elsewhere? Bentley? Sidwell? Lansbury? Had they stayed, they could've become useful assets to the squad, but that's about it. Greater commercial success with any of them at the club? Doubtful.

It'll be interesting watching how Afobe does in the coming seasons, but even though he's currently doing well for Wolves, we're a long way from regretting the decision to sell him yet.

Tbh I think you're over estimating the whole 'British = commercial revenue' thing anyway. Otherwise, explain the signing of Inamoto and the bizarre hijacking of Park Chu-Young - a player whose only league minutes during his entire Arsenal career were 10 minutes at the end of a home defeat a Man United side featuring Park Ji-sung?

Then explain why Arsenal, so many years considered the 'least British' club in the Premier League have always been one of the biggest commercial success stories?

As to Beckham, though United undoubtably created him and much of his success is down to them, you can't seriously think that the media profile he and Victoria created was solely down to their respective employers, (for want of a better word)?

It was Beckham's media profile that in the end drove him out of the club.

"We are both speculating on what Wenger will do. You have already kicked Walcott out of the door ffs."

Yes we are both speculating. However only one of us is getting upset by said speculation. And I haven't kicked anyone out the door yet - it wouldn't surprise me if Flamini, Diaby and Arteta are all still at the club next season - least of all Walcott.

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"So has the blog you quote a lot."

Presumably you are referring to Arseblog? If so it may interest you to know that, generally speaking, I only read his blog a couple of times a week - usually after matchdays. It's the news service I use more, as a handy hub for stories that slip through the usual channels.

I choose to read that blog because we generally have similar views about Arsenal. He's a fairly level-headed, take it as it comes type and, though I'm prone to the occasional melt down, (signing Welbeck for example) by and large so, am I - or at least I like to think so.

So you might like to think I'm merely regurgitating his words in order to weaken my argument, but I'm afraid that's not the case.

I'm not the type to read the Daily Mail and then complain about it's 'surprising' lack of accuracy. Likewise I don't listen to TalkSport then whine about what Adrian Durham thinks about my club. Why then would I read an Arsenal blog I disagree with? Frankly, who's got the time to?

Arseblog is a good read and though it might round out my opinion on certain subjects, it certainly doesn't form it.
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"You have suggested that Walcott has to fight to get back into the team because there is NO place for him."

Right, and you're problem with that is what exactly?!

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"Why exactly will he buy to fill a place that is already filled?"

Read what I said.

"Stop being facetious and read the entire comment."

I wasn't being facetious, (at least not intentionally) but more generally thrown that you still maintain that anyone bar the press were to blame for this non story becoming public knowledge in the first place.

At a push, you could fault Ozil, but even then it's hard to blame a foreign player for underestimating the stupidity of the British press, or at least the suckers they rely on to pay their wages.

Personally I'd keep 'im.