So we have finished 5th which is better than last season, and the same as AVB's first season in charge.
So it would be interesting to ask Chicken if he thinks we have gone backwards as a club under Poch, and would have been better keeping Sherwood as manager?
Incidentally to help him make his mind up, I have included a list of Spurs managers with their win % records. Funnily enough Poch has the best record in recent years, with AVB second
Manager From Until Hons Games per Honour W D L Total Win%
Mauricio Pochettino 2014 Now 0 n/a 23 8 10 41 56.10
Tim Sherwood 2013 2014 0 n/a 14 4 10 28 50.00
Andre Villas-Boas 2012 2013 0 n/a 44 20 16 80 55.00
Harry Redknapp 2008 2012 0 n/a 98 50 50 198 49.49
Juande Ramos 2007 2008 1 54.00 21 16 17 54 38.89
Clive Allen (caretaker) 2007 2007 0 n/a 0 0 1 1 0.00
Martin Jol 2004 2007 0 n/a 67 38 43 148 45.27
Jacques Santini 2004 2004 0 n/a 5 4 4 13 38.46
David Pleat (caretaker) 2003 2004 0 n/a 16 7 16 39 41.03
Glenn Hoddle 2001 2003 0 n/a 41 18 45 104 39.42
David Pleat (caretaker) 2001 2001 0 n/a 1 0 1 2 50.00
George Graham 1998 2001 1 126.00 50 35 41 126 39.68
David Pleat (caretaker) 1998 1998 0 n/a 3 2 1 6 50.00
Chris Hughton (caretaker) 1998 1998 0 n/a 3 2 1 6 50.00
Christian Gross 1997 1998 0 n/a 10 8 12 30 33.33
Gerry Francis 1994 1997 0 n/a 55 42 45 142 38.73
Steve Perryman (caretaker) 1994 1994 0 n/a 0 0 1 1 0.00
Ossie Ardiles 1993 1994 0 n/a 20 17 28 65 30.77
Doug Livermore 1992 1993 0 n/a 23 11 17 51 45.10
Peter Shreeves 1991 1992 1 60.00 23 12 25 60 38.33
Terry Venables 1987 1991 1 165.00 67 46 52 165 40.61
David Pleat 1986 1987 0 n/a 39 11 21 71 54.93
Peter Shreeves 1984 1986 0 n/a 54 24 33 111 48.65
Keith Burkinshaw 1976 1984 5 86.20 182 118 131 431 42.23
Terry Neill 1974 1976 0 n/a 31 26 33 90 34.44
Bill Nicholson 1958 1974 7 117.57 401 197 225 823 48.72
Jimmy Anderson 1955 1958 0 n/a 68 31 48 147 46.26
Arthur Rowe 1949 1955 3 92.67 135 56 87 278 48.56
Joe Hulme 1946 1949 0 n/a 52 46 37 135 38.52
Peter McWilliam 1938 1942 0 n/a 20 11 16 47 42.55
Jack Tresadern 1935 1938 0 n/a 63 33 46 142 44.37
Percy Smith 1930 1935 1 239.00 101 55 83 239 42.26
Billy Minter 1927 1929 0 n/a 44 23 50 117 37.61
Peter McWilliam 1913 1927 3 151.67 191 104 160 455 41.98
Fred Kirkham 1907 1908 0 n/a 25 8 20 53 47.17
John Cameron 1899 1906 1 28.00 12 10 6 28 42.86
Frank Brettell 1898 1899 0 n/a 2 1 1 4 50.00
5th
posted on 29/5/15
and if average is 5th and a cup final, then if things get good then we have a lot to look forward to
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
We can have this same debate in exactly one years time and I predict that with Poch at the helm we will have done no better at all than we have this season.
But of course then it will be excuse 4008 and Levy will be to blame for not buying every superstar in the world for him
posted on 29/5/15
that doesn't work here considering i am one of the few defenders of levy on this site
posted on 29/5/15
comment by grandspurs (U3810)
posted 13 minutes ago
"It's magnificent to be in Europe, and this club - a club like Tottenham Hotspur - if we're not in Europe.... we're nothing. We're nothing."
------------------------------------------------------------------
Another quote Old Bill had europe to contend with as wellIn a day when a trip took 3 days and not 3 hours.
still no praise for the good things poch did this season then?
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
I can only think of one good thing? Things denote more than one.
Harry Kane was his one, other than that I cant think of anything he did that was worthy of note.
Maybe some of his transfer signings
----------------------------------------------------------------------
if you can only think of one good thing then you are either so biased you are blind to having a proper look, or you don't know what you are talking about.
not sure which it is.
posted on 29/5/15
I’m sorry grand but I am totally with Chronic on this one. In every league, at every level, across the entire planet, there will be many cases where the better team on paper does not win. That is the beauty of football. If it wasn’t, and the favourite won every time, football would be dead.
We all admit we should be beating teams like Villa, Palace and Stoke, but by that theory we should have no hope against Chelsea or Arsenal. You have to accept there will be rough times as well as smooth – and just hope that the smooth outweighs the rough.
posted on 29/5/15
chicken is agreeing with me
posted on 3/6/15
chicken
I agree with that but we lost far to many times at WHL last season for it to be considered a "solid season"
Yes there will always be upsets but we also got outplayed to many times by inferior teams on our own ground.
posted on 4/6/15
The home form was pretty woeful to watch.
Statistically one of our worst home seasons since Ramos.
The away results were pretty good again though. Up there with our best of the last few years, and much better than we achieved under Redknapps tenure - we tended to get good results at home, but average ones way.
A telling statistic is that we won 13 of our 19 games by a single goal. That has to change, the margins are far too fine there. That's largely the reason we had a GD of just 7 - we snuck a fair few wins by the skin of our teeth
posted on 7/6/15
this is also why woolwich get CL every season you can count on one hand the amount of times they drop points to bad teams with us you need your hands and your feet to count them
posted on 8/6/15
grand,
this is also why woolwich get CL every season you can count on one hand the amount of times they drop points to bad teams with us you need your hands and your feet to count them
======================
Firstly, why do you have to compare everything we do what Arsenal do? Plus, from memory Arsenal dropped points against Everton, Leicester, Hull, Sunderland, Stoke and I think both Swansea and Southampton did the double over them (not sure about that though ??). I know it is still less than we do but even an established CL team like Arsenal lose points to teams they are far greater than on paper.
It’s annoying when we beat Chelsea then lose to Palace in the very next game, granted, but that’s the rough and smooth of football.
posted on 12/6/15
Firstly, why do you have to compare everything we do what Arsenal do?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I dont as a rule but its relevant when talking about top 4 spots, which in itself appears to be the success benchmark.