llowing yesterday's events in relation to the intended signing of the player David de Gea, Real Madrid wishes to state:
1.- Manchester United did not agree to open any negotiations over the federative rights of David de Gea until yesterday morning.
2.- Real Madrid, despite the difficulties entailed in carrying out a deal of these characteristics on the final day of registration, agreed to initiate these talks.
3.- When Manchester United agreed to negotiate yesterday morning, they made it subject to reaching an agreement with Real Madrid's Keylor Navas for the player to join the British club from this season, and stated that it was in contact with the aforementioned player's representatives.
4.- Real Madrid and Manchester United quickly reached an agreement for the transfers of both players. Following the drawing up of the relevant contractual documentation required, and with the purpose of proceeding with enough time to process both FIFA's Transfer Matching System (TMS) and the registration with the Liga de Fútbol Profesional, Real Madrid sent Manchester United the contracts at 13.39 Spanish time.
5.- Manchester United sent their remarks regarding the aforementioned contracts eight hours later, at 21.43 Spanish time, including minor modifications. As these modifications were not significant, they were all accepted immediately by Real Madrid, with the intention being able to register the player on time both via TMS and with the Liga de Fútbol Profesional.
6.- Real Madrid, having obtained the signatures of the players De Gea and Keylor Navas, sent the British club the aforementioned signed contracts at 23:32 Spanish time, before waiting to receive the final documents signed by Manchester United.
7.- Manchester United reached a final agreement with the representatives of Keylor Navas at 23:53 Spanish time, and it is at this point that the contracts were sent to the player to be signed.
8.- Manchester United entered the details of the David de Gea deal, not those of Keylor Navas, at 00:00 Spanish time, simultaneously sending Real Madrid the signed transfer contracts. Real Madrid received this complete documentation at 00:02 and attempted to access TMS, but it was now closed.
9.- At 00:26 Spanish time, FIFA's TMS invited Real Madrid to fill out the details of the player David de Gea, as the period of registration in England remains open until today. Real Madrid, in view of the possible eventuality of an administrative dispute over the player's transfer, decided to send the contracts to the Liga de Fútbol Profesional, despite the knowledge that the deadline had passed.
10.- In short, Real Madrid did everything necessary at all times to complete both transfers.
Real Madrid Statement
posted on 1/9/15
Yeah that's true Darren but even a few more more months of him in goal could make a huge difference to you, he really is that good.
posted on 1/9/15
comment by roonited (U11635)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 19 seconds ago
It's an awful mess but if I was a united fan I'd be delighted, you don't need cash, you get to keep one of the worlds top keepers, a player who was a massive part of you getting back to the CL this year.
Also DDG comes accross as a very well grounded fella, seems like a total pro, with the Euro's coming up it's in his own interest to play and play well, yeah you will most likely loose him next summer but he could be the difference this season between top 4 and maybe a cup win and finishing 5th and not winning a cup.
Plus this gives you a year to scout and sign a proper replacement for him.
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Exactly
Its up to De gea now how he handles this. Its in his interest to get back playing asap
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Would not bet against LVG and Woodward taking a hardline stance and insisting DDG signs a new contract if he wants to get back in the team. I'd certainly prefer him to commit to United before he plays again.
posted on 1/9/15
can you actually make a player rot in the reserves for not signing a contract
I know some of us said it about Sterling and Suarez.
But wouldn't/couldn't that be seen as blackmail or breach of contract somehow?
JUst curious as it gets said whenever a good player wants to leave a club.
posted on 1/9/15
I agree.
posted on 1/9/15
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 1 minute ago
can you actually make a player rot in the reserves for not signing a contract
I know some of us said it about Sterling and Suarez.
But wouldn't/couldn't that be seen as blackmail or breach of contract somehow?
JUst curious as it gets said whenever a good player wants to leave a club.
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I can remember quite a few years ago there was some sort of employment rule that could have been exercised and it was something like if a player was included in less 10% of his sides games, he could be entitled to a free transfer. Can't remember the player, but it was a similar situation.
Tbh, I think there is a FIFA rule active now (Webster ruling?) that would enable DDG to simply buy out the last year of his contract. He could do that, but he doesn't seem too forthcoming in terms of losing any of his own money. Hence the lack of a transfer request despite him wanting to move to Madrid...
posted on 1/9/15
Maybe he will sign a new deal with certain get out clauses for either an certain amount or should a certain club/s come calling, basically that's what Suarez did with us, after we refused to sell to Arsenal he signed the new deal a few months later, he got more money and when we sold him we got a huge price.
That way at least united will get a more realistic value for one of the worlds top players in his position, he's easily worth 50 million on today gargantuan prices.
posted on 1/9/15
comment by Mata's Left Foot - General Bastian (U11781)
posted 53 minutes ago
I'm still astonished they're piping up after the hiding West Ham gave them on Saturday. It was the first time in 50 years they lost at home with a result like that. Moyesesque stat or what? And Jlou thinks they're in the battle for 4th
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But still a better stat than LvG's United losing 4-0 to MK Dons.
I mean I know it was only League (Capital One) cup but FFS League 1 opposition caning United 4-0. Time to climb down from that high horse of yours.
posted on 1/9/15
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
As far as I can tell the layman's equivalent of RMs statement is:
1.- United agreed to open negotiations in the morning.
2.- Real Madrid agree to have these talks.
3.- United demand Navas be part of the deal and tell RM they are in contact with Navas' representatives.
4.- Real Madrid and Manchester United reached an agreement for the transfers of both players at 13.39 Spanish time.
5.- At 21:43 (8 hrs later), United send minorly amended contracts to RM. RM accept immediately.
6.- RM obtained signatures of both De Gea and Navas, and send to United at 23:32. (opinion, the DDG is done now all that remains is Navas's)
7.- United reach final agreement with Navas at 23:53
8.- Manchester United entered the details of the David de Gea deal, not those of Keylor Navas, at 00:00 Spanish time.
You can accuse me of being biased or anti-United all you want, but it looks, based on the statement and assuming it's right, that United had about half an hour to key DDGs transfer into the system after sitting on the contracts for most of the day.
How can you fook that up?
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What about we didn't want to enter the DDG details until we had confirmation that Navas was definitely coming the other way? We could've ended up with Real having DDG and Navas, and the Navas one not going through today!! We had to make sure Navas was part of the deal and until RM enter those details there is no deal?
posted on 1/9/15
Mourinho shopping at LIDL
posted on 1/9/15
Manchester United notes Real Madrid’s statement on the attempt to sign David De Gea and sell Navas to Manchester United. The club feels compelled to provide some clarification with the following facts.
- Manchester United did not seek contact from Real Madrid for the sale of David. David is a key member of our squad and the club’s preference was not to sell.
- No offer was received for David until yesterday.
- At lunchtime yesterday, Real Madrid made its first offer to buy David. A deal was agreed between the clubs, which included Navas being transferred to Old Trafford. The deals were dependent on each other.
- In the last several hours of the process, with Navas at the Real Madrid training ground, Real Madrid were controlling the documentation processes of David, Navas and Real Madrid. Manchester United was in control only of the documentation of Manchester United.
- Manchester United sent transfer documents for both players to Real Madrid at 20:42 BST. David’s documentation was returned by Real Madrid to Manchester United without the signatory page at 22:32 BST.
- At 22:40 BST, minutes before the deadline, major changes to the documentation came through to Manchester United which immediately put the deals at risk.
- Only at 22:55 BST were the documents that are needed to cancel David’s contract received by Manchester United from Real Madrid.
- At this point Navas’ documentation was still not returned by Real Madrid.
- At 22:58 BST, the transfer agreement was sent back by Manchester United, uploaded onto TMS and accepted – all before the deadline.
- It is our understanding that the deals couldn’t happen because:
Real Madrid didn’t upload David’s documents onto TMS in time (Manchester United did)
Real Madrid didn’t upload David’s documents to the Spanish league in time, per reports it seems some 28 minutes after the deadline
- The fact that Manchester United filed the papers on time was acknowledged by the Football Association, who offered to support that claim in any discussions with FIFA. The club offered this assistance, as well as its own timestamped documents to Real Madrid but they have chosen not to go down this route.
Manchester United acts appropriately and efficiently in its transfer dealings. The club is delighted that its fan-favourite double Player of the Year, David de Gea, remains a Manchester United player.