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So tell me, Stan

Alisher Usmanov, Arsenal's second largest shareholder, has written to the club before Thursday's annual general meeting requesting an explanation of a £3m payment to the company of majority owner Stan Kroenke.

(Daily Telegraph) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/11929959/Arsenal-fans-call-for-independent-review-of-transfer-strategy-after-making-just-one-signing-in-the-summer.html

posted on 17/10/15

comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 36 minutes ago
A lot of billionaires do good things with their money
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Not surprisingly they tend to be self-made and from the tech sectors. Brains and some compassion. I suppose Buffet is the slight exception to the rule.

posted on 17/10/15

comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 38 minutes ago
A lot of billionaires do good things with their money
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I see where you're coming from there 8bit. But if you actually think about the amount of money billionaires have (just in personal wealth), the "good" they do with it, is pitiful in comparison. You're talking about the very rich few, who genuinely have enough money and power to affect change in this world or even just their own countries.

But they don't, why? Because it'd mean they'd not be able to be billionaires anymore. They'd only get to keep a couple hundred million. The ridiculously rich are and always have been, humanity's greatest problem. Their greed and obsession with accumulating more wealth than the ungodly sum they already have, is the cause of pretty much all the suffering in this world.

posted on 17/10/15

Btw not saying nobody should be rich. Just that nobody should have more money as fortune than some small countries have period.

posted on 17/10/15

*as a personal fortune.

posted on 17/10/15

comment by WengersBodyguard2 (U8276)
posted 41 minutes ago
How is what I'VE said racist. You haven't got a clue have you?

There's nothing racial about my stance mate. Unless you class the disgracefully wealthy as a race. Prejudice yes, racist, noThis is about the incredibly rich and the rest of us. I'm sure you can find plenty of "little people" whom had their lives crushed to build the sporting empire you're deluded enough to believe is squeaky clean.

"If you dont understand the difference between inheriting or accruing wealth through capitalism and the way russian state assets were distributed following the break up of the soviet union then im not going to bother talking to you, no point arguing with a fool"

You genuinely think that "inheriting or accruing wealth through capitalism" to the extent that Kronke has, doesn't involve stepping on an awful lot of people and doing alot of dodgy deals carving up the lives of thousands. And you're calling ME a fool.

Proper little mug aren't you. Bet you blame people on benefits and immigration for the country having no money whilst admiring the rich people bending you and the rest of the country over with tax avoidance. You silly man
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Wtf is this?

You seem desperate to argue with me but can't even read what I've said

You.mentioned stan's skin colour as if it made any difference to my opinion of him or usmanov... An unnecessary inclusion of race to muddy the argument about whether we want to compromise the integrity of the club just to bring in a sugar daddy

Stick to your ad hominems and straw man tactics, no point talking to a fool like yourself

comment by 8bit (U2653)

posted on 17/10/15

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ6PGtjDHmI

Watch the first 40 seconds of this video WB2. I'm not disagreeing with you but you're assuming all billionaires the same of part of the same system.

posted on 17/10/15

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 5 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by WengersBodyguard2 (U8276)
posted 41 minutes ago
How is what I'VE said racist. You haven't got a clue have you?

There's nothing racial about my stance mate. Unless you class the disgracefully wealthy as a race. Prejudice yes, racist, noThis is about the incredibly rich and the rest of us. I'm sure you can find plenty of "little people" whom had their lives crushed to build the sporting empire you're deluded enough to believe is squeaky clean.

"If you dont understand the difference between inheriting or accruing wealth through capitalism and the way russian state assets were distributed following the break up of the soviet union then im not going to bother talking to you, no point arguing with a fool"

You genuinely think that "inheriting or accruing wealth through capitalism" to the extent that Kronke has, doesn't involve stepping on an awful lot of people and doing alot of dodgy deals carving up the lives of thousands. And you're calling ME a fool.

Proper little mug aren't you. Bet you blame people on benefits and immigration for the country having no money whilst admiring the rich people bending you and the rest of the country over with tax avoidance. You silly man
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Wtf is this?

You seem desperate to argue with me but can't even read what I've said

You.mentioned stan's skin colour as if it made any difference to my opinion of him or usmanov... An unnecessary inclusion of race to muddy the argument about whether we want to compromise the integrity of the club just to bring in a sugar daddy

Stick to your ad hominems and straw man tactics, no point talking to a fool like yourself
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The integrity is compromised either way IDIOT! Because they are billionaires and THAT'S capitalism. Don't sit there going on about me not reading what you've written when you're repeatedly missing the point that it's making.

I'll dumb it down so you get it.

Billionaires are bad. No matter where they come from. They've ALL trodden on too many of us to get and stay there. Don't be mad at me, that is simply the rules to the game they have to play. "Nice" "Good" people don't generally get there (unless born so). Because it requires a ruthless streak they don't have.

Come back when you understand how the capitalism you so admire Mr Kronke for mastering, actually works

posted on 17/10/15

8bit

You get what I'm saying. I will admit I'm being a tad sweeping with what I've said. But that's because CEG started blathering about Kronke's fortune smelling of roses because he gained his billions through capitalism and I was making a point. Though I don't why I bothered, he still doesn't get it.

posted on 17/10/15

Straw manning again

You seem confused and are desperate to make it into a Me Vs You discussion when the discussion should be about whether we want Usmanov in control of our club

I never said the sun shined out of Stan's backside but I think he is the lesser of 2 evils

posted on 17/10/15

I look forward to your response once you've taken 5 hours to work out your best insults again

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