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Club shop online? - A bunch of thieves....

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Has anyone had dealings with the Club shop on-line?
Was it a good experience?

On Wednesday night, I tried to order the 150 year anniversary shirt. I filled in all the details on the website and proceeded with the order, which was for £45 + £21+ for shipping (Yes, £21+!!!!).
The website asked me to to enter the code that they had sent to my telephone.

After entering the code, a message popped up saying that there was an error with the billing address. I was returned to the page where I filled in the details. I checked the address that I had given. It seemed OK so I assumed something had gone wrong with the transaction and continued with placing the order again. I entered the new code that I been sent and the same thing happened, an error with the billing address. i have been using the internet for 20 years and buying on-line for the last 12+ years without any problems at all, so I presumed that everything was OK.

When I tried again, I didn't get the error, the page just accepted it and I thought that that was that, and presumed that the order was placed. Although I didn't receive an order number or an email confirming or declining the order, I assumed that I would receive it the next day.

On Thursday, I got home from work for my lunch break and checked my mail - nothing, so I decided to check my credit card balance, only to find that there was only €0.45 left to on it...

I immediately called the club to find out what was going on. The guy that answered explained to me that the transaction had failed twice because my bank did not recognise the billing address.The third attempt failed because of insufficient funds. I was gobsmacked. If my bank did not accept the billing address, how could they take the money from the account? "It is Sage pay, and is an anti-fraud measure." was the reply.
By this time I was boiling over. "The money will be refunded to your account in two days, maximum." said the guy at the other end of the phone, trying to calm me down.

Thinking about it afterwards, I came to the conclusion that their "anti-fraud measure" in itself is fraud. A credit card is issued to the user and for it to work, both the user and the bank have to agree to the transaction before any money is taken from the account. If my bank declined the transaction because of an error in the billing address, then the transaction is was not approved and no money should be taken out of the account. For example, if I came to your house and took your car without your consent (with the intention of returning it after two days of joyriding), then I have committed an offence and can be punished by the court.

This is the same thing...

It is now Saturday morning and my credit card balance is still €0.45, so I can't do my planned Christmas shopping and I am not going to receive my shirt in time for Christmas...

Me, angry? You can bet on it.

To add insult to injury, I received an email this morning from Forest player saying that my subscription had expired because there was insufficient funds in my credit card account to pay this months subscription!!!

How can a "professional" business be allowed to get away with this? I'd like to know if anyone else has had the problems that I have had.

If anyone else has had similar problems, I would like to hear from them as I am considering sending this sorry tale to Watchdog on the Beeb. After all, bad publicity is not what the club is looking for...

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comment by Kav H (U19426)

posted on 19/12/15

comment by Kav H (U19426)

posted on 19/12/15

I sympathise with you massively as we use Sage Pay occasionally at work and it's the biggest load of rubbish ever. Hope you get your money back

posted on 19/12/15

We have software at work that monitors all credit card payments and we have some issues because of its sensitivity to fraud.

One kid ordered something, £1500 worth of kit, and he had a similar problem, I spoke to him and he told me the money had left his account, even though we hadn't received it.

Told him to ring his bank, which he did, they said the money was in "no man's land" or "withholdings" it had left his account but because he hadn't put his exact address in or something, our software declined him. The reason the money didn't go straight back in his account was that the bank weren't sure if we'd shipped goods to him. Only when we sent confirmation that we hadn't shipped, by fax, did he get the money.

I was a little perplexed as to why in this day and age they wanted a fax but that's a different story.

Sounds like something similar has happened to you.

posted on 19/12/15

comment by Kav H (U19426)
posted 6 minutes ago

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Definitely this

comment by (U18331)

posted on 19/12/15

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posted on 19/12/15

posted on 19/12/15

The ticket office is difficult to deal with as well. Try buying a away ticket without an away membership, or ring them on a expensive phone number. Rip off!

comment by Kav H (U19426)

posted on 19/12/15

yaaa caaant Shinji

posted on 19/12/15

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