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The BBC

What a waste of space and our money.

The news in particular is so biased and Shiite

Time to get rid of this gutless propaganda machine , what say you?

posted on 24/1/17

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Al Jazeera is facking awful.
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Why do so many journos want to work for them?

Last journo I spoke to said it was the premier league for journos
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Who did you speak to? saying you spoke to a Journo carries no weight
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I know a few
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means feck all mate, I know a few too and none of them want to work for Al Jazera
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Arabs studying to be a journo hence why I asked him numbnuts
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I graduated with a Merit in Media Broadcast last year I'm not doing journalism.

posted on 24/1/17

comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
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To be honest, I can't do the subject justice as it is, without trying to further shorten the posts!!

I could adopt a Stretty approach and just call the media 'dross' and 'average' with an grunting, angry tone...
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True

posted on 24/1/17

More bollox off you. The Beeb is great.

comment by IAmMe (U18491)

posted on 24/1/17

Not so much "biased" as it is lazy, scared and cowardly.

So lazy their journalists lacked the energy to, so easily, dismantle the ridiculous normalisation of the disengenuous approach of the 'brexifears' in the recent referendum.

So scared of the government's control over it's very existence that there is a real reluctance to be too honest about anything that risks bringing an end to the nearest thing to a free press that we have.

Too cowardly to be strong enough to overcome their fear and laziness.

that being said, the low licence fee makes it, relatively, cheap. And even though it is staffed by lazy, scared cowards, they are more energetic and braver than their disgustingly awful rivals

posted on 24/1/17

All this negativity.

What did you do today?

posted on 25/1/17

It depends if people use the news and the BBC to interpret the underlying narrative for them or just use it for finding out what the news items are. I only use it for the latter, but find it better than most for doing that. There are a couple of people on there that I highly rate. I do get the feeling people tend to judge it solely on its website or news at ten though as they are the most popular mediums. You'll find far greater debate on radio 4.

As an institution outside of the news, I've got no problems with it either.

posted on 25/1/17

Berba

Thanks for your comprehensive responses. There's much I'd like to write back, and I might later in the week when I have more free time.

In the meantime, I've always had the belief - partly because I've met a few - that there is a good number of independently-minded journalists working amongst those more interested in paychecks and career advancement.

Some of those people will remain steadfastly professionally independent, operating perfectly autonomously. Many others will take a more pragmatic approach, which might involve juggling their principles versus finding a platform for their work and/or finding a way to make a living. I can't judge such people; many of them do fine work.

I also think at organisational level, there are owners and executive management teams that will consciously choose to balance their collective professional integrity against the commercial viability of their project and the realities of what their financial model might mean in terms of their ability to reach a wider audience. Those won't for many be easy decisions to make, and I wouldn't make blanket judgments about such decisions.

I suppose at organisational level, there will be those bodies which (consciously) exist primarily to push an agenda (be it political, sociopolitical, economic, whatever); those which exist primarily to make money in isolation; those which exist primarily to report quality journalism; and those that think they sit somewhere in amongst all of that.

I'm not ready to abandon all mass media on principle yet. There are real stories reported by excellent investigative journalists in amongst it all. Considering and understanding agendas is obviously important. Measuring, verifying and qualifying reports is - as mentioned by others above - essential nowadays (as it has probably always been). But reading widely, and applying a bit of common sense and a degree of diligence can be enough to cut a lot of the fat.

posted on 25/1/17

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posted on 25/1/17

And tere I was all those years ago thinking that Bill & Ben, The Woodentops, Bagpuss etc were just simple children's programs. Who'd have guessed tiny tot were just being fed left-wing propaganda by the wicked uncles at the BBC

posted on 25/1/17

Generally the Beeb is fairly good regarding news. Though their political coverage over the last few years, with Laura Keunssburg (spelling), has been riddled with government bias. After the Brexit vote, the focus on Labour's mess was disproportionate to the mess the Governing party were going through, and what happens next.

Channel 4 for a long time has been the most reliable news source. Everyone else is just too cosy to the powers that be. One of the best pieces of journalism I have seen I recent years was Jon Snow's interview with Cameron where he pressed him on the UK's relationship with the Saudi government, something which no other news outlet seems to talk about.

Too often neutrality and objectivity are confused. It's not the medias job to simply report what people in power say, they have to hold them to account.

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