After the initial surprise of seeing it dominate the headlines, when we got to hear what was effectively his reasons for doing it, and even though he played for United, I was left hoping the incident didn’t rob our country of an amazing talent, cos as a football fan, he was a joy to watch.
Even non United and non football fans that I spoke to at the time, seemed (for want of better words) quite pleased that he “took a stand on behalf of other footballers." A lot of them felt that yes perhaps for the money he was on, he could have had ‘thicker skin’ but their point was why should he?
And I agreed with them if I’m honest. And Nike seemed to agree with him
For those who have seen it, what were your thoughts at the time?
And what are your thoughts about it in hindsight? Do they differ much?
The Cantona "Kung Fu" kick
posted on 13/2/17
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 6 minutes ago
So if he called someone a "black whatever" that would be ok then?
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Are you really this clueless?
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No but apparently you are. This is your logic, after all.
Or did you forget saying this: "If he called him a French whatever, the first part is correct in regard to his nationality, whatever is said after that, is a personal slight."?
How are the rules any different by substituting the word "black" or "Irish" or "Indian" for the word "French"? The logic is the same.
This is your idiotic perspective, not mine. I'm just trying to help you see how stupid your original comment was.
posted on 13/2/17
If someone ran on the pitch and kicked a player and punched him what would happen?
Why is it different for a footballer?
posted on 13/2/17
where as racism is a hatred of other races of people
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No it isn't. And only a pedant would question whether the following definition could be applied to nationality.
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
"a programme to combat racism"
synonyms: racial discrimination, racialism, racial prejudice/bigotry, xenophobia, chauvinism, bigotry, bias, intolerance; More
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
posted on 13/2/17
Boring argument racist v Xenephobic
posted on 13/2/17
How are the rules any different by substituting the word "black" or "Irish" or "Indian" for the word "French"? The logic is the same.
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Fluck me, you really believe this $h i.te your spouting dont you.
There are obviously nuances in regard to referring to somebodies skin colour, as it has in the past been used to exclude, persecute, and oppress people based solely on this difference.
It also has to be contextualised in terms of how or when its used.
To simply say, or twist the logic that there is no difference between using terms such as 'French', 'Irish', and 'Black', is overly simplistic, and in your case, also desperate and idiotic in equal measure.
posted on 13/2/17
There's no excuse for what he did. It should never happen no matter what!
posted on 13/2/17
To simply say, or twist the logic that there is no difference between using terms such as 'French', 'Irish', and 'Black', is overly simplistic, and in your case, also desperate and idiotic in equal measure.
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Really? Then why did you exclude the word "Indian" then? Because it hurts your argument perhaps?
According to you, racism only applies to skin colour and only if a specific race has been persecuted at some stage in recent history?
Is that your argument? Funny then that the definition of the word "racism" mentions none of this!
People who make up their own meanings of words are the desperate and idiotic ones.
And you still haven't sucked on my balls yet. I grew them just for you and everything.
posted on 13/2/17
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 40 minutes ago
Boring argument racist v Xenephobic
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I couldn't agree more. Anyone with common sense would agree that there is little difference.
posted on 13/2/17
Even today I hate watching fans hanging over the hoardings abusing players, as if paying their match fee gives them the right insult the opposition (or even their own players).
Personally I'd like to see them identified, thrown out of the ground and banned for a season.
It's not suprising then, (and I wasn't on my own by the sound of it) that I watched with a big grin on my face as the smug arrogance was wiped from his face as Cantonna hurdled the fence!
I know Cantonna was wrong but to me Matthew Simmons didn't get half of what he deserved!
posted on 13/2/17
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 5 hours ago
Boring argument racist v Xenephobic
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Think it'll be a score draw.