I saw the last 15 of that game this evening.
So, my very trivial question is……
There was an incident where a Utd guy plays the ball forward, JUST AFTER HE PLAYS THE BALL, he is caught by a Falkirk player.
When the ball was played, it went towards a Utd player who was offside.
The linesman gives correctly offside
The ref gives correctly a foul
So, which one takes precedent?
The refs gave the foul.
Now for me that might be wrong as even though we now play on in offside situations until the player who is in the offside position becomes ‘active’ the resulting free kick would be taken from where he was as the point the ball was played.
Offside is only relevant at the point when the ball moves forward.
The foul occurred after the ball moved forward.
Now that is trivial
OK TRIVIAL QUESTION
posted on 19/5/17
In saying all that the ref was correct...
posted on 20/5/17
If the ball was played forward first then, technically, the ref was wrong but he applied common sense with which no one will argue.
Maybe he could have given the offside and booked the player for the late tackle. That might have been correct but he'd have been slated for it.
Good decision.
posted on 20/5/17
A few years back that would have been the case
But now the infringement does not occur until the offside guy is deemed active
And the foul was before that
Hence why the ref was correct
posted on 20/5/17
Duke...congratulations mate. This is actually your best OP ever
posted on 20/5/17
comment by The Duke (U10059)
posted 4 minutes ago
A few years back that would have been the case
But now the infringement does not occur until the offside guy is deemed active
And the foul was before that
Hence why the ref was correct
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But surely the player is active the moment the ball is played towards him, not when the ref raises his flag.
posted on 20/5/17
Not now he isn't
It's strange given the offside when given woukd intact revert to the point when the ball is played
No matter how long it takes
New rule since 14 years ago
If you can call that new
posted on 20/5/17
comment by theresgonnaebeashow - John, you're immortal now. (U5686)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by The Duke (U10059)
posted 4 minutes ago
A few years back that would have been the case
But now the infringement does not occur until the offside guy is deemed active
And the foul was before that
Hence why the ref was correct
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But surely the player is active the moment the ball is played towards him, not when the ref raises his flag.
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Don't think do...if the ball is played towards him and he makes no attempt to play the ball, he's not active. You can be in an offside position but not offside. You see it all the time.
posted on 20/5/17
comment by Magnum (U16400)
posted 10 minutes ago
Duke...congratulations mate. This is actually your best OP ever
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You know I had it in the Ghodfather range of pash articles
posted on 20/5/17
comment by Magnum (U16400)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by theresgonnaebeashow - John, you're immortal now. (U5686)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by The Duke (U10059)
posted 4 minutes ago
A few years back that would have been the case
But now the infringement does not occur until the offside guy is deemed active
And the foul was before that
Hence why the ref was correct
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But surely the player is active the moment the ball is played towards him, not when the ref raises his flag.
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Don't think do...if the ball is played towards him and he makes no attempt to play the ball, he's not active. You can be in an offside position but not offside. You see it all the time.
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But if he does go for the ball surely he was active when the ball was hit towards him.
Fckin love pub debates.
posted on 23/5/17
As far as I am concerned, whether the player was active or not is irrelevant.
Had the player not been offside, the referee may have played advantage, let Utd attack and not blown for the foul
From that point of view, it was still a foul, and any advantage the Utd had was over the minute the offside was given so the ref stopped play and went back for the free kick