No more hollow words, no more changing of Facebook profile photos and other ridiculously pointless facetious behaviour, we need to act now.
This is becoming far too often in Europe, almost a weekly event and it will start to alter how we live our lives.
Last night's incident took place where I walk to work every day, outside a pub I walk past every single morning and in Borough Market where I sometimes walk to get lunch. And tonight it was just people having a nice evening being randomly murdered.
Manchester was a bunch of young innocent people excited about a concert being blown to bits in the name of whatever ridiculous cause these people stand for.
Westminster was tourists coming to London to see the greatest city on earth, being mowed down by a psycho in an MPV.
This has to stop now, I'm sick of the hashtags, Facebook posts and Instagram photos, something has to be done. The question is what? You can't reason with these people they have a brainwashed hatred for the West.
I'm getting a more and more wary about the city I live in, this shouldn't be allowed to happen.
But, we are a country that stood up to Hitler and won, we will defeat this sccum.
No more thoughts and prayers
posted on 4/6/17
The stuff that's is happening in the UK at the moment is mental. The one thing our government should look at doing is stop it's involvement in wars and conflicts in countries that breed the idiologies that these terrorist believe in.
We can't expect peace in the UK whilst we are bombing the cr4p out of the middle East
posted on 4/6/17
comment by Thank God for Clippity Klopp (U12976)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
The stuff that's is happening in the UK at the moment is mental. The one thing our government should look at doing is stop it's involvement in wars and conflicts in countries that breed the idiologies that these terrorist believe in.
We can't expect peace in the UK whilst we are bombing the cr4p out of the middle East
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So you think we asa relatively strong country should not help the weak in the Middle East from being attacked, raped, killed, etc?
And what about the fact that ISIS want to impose their rules on the rest of the world and despise western culture so want to attack and kill us whether we are involved in wars or not?
posted on 5/6/17
Any ideal can be twisted. Anything that can unite people will also be able to decide people.
The Quran, like someone else mentioned about the Bible, has to be read within context. Verses relate to circumstances. None here are scholars (and even among them there are differing opinions). And people like Mancini are, as can be from what they have written, are either hypocritical or an idiot (or/and something else).
People talk about ISIS (leaders are ex Baathist) yet how did they spring up? You have practically every Middle Eastern nation's leaders bar Iran propped up by Western nations or Russia. When they aren't, they are removed and troubles begin. Look at Egypt. They had a taste of democracy but we did nothing when there was a coup. No boycotts, no sanctions. Nothing. This sends a message to those in the fridge. Their leaders don't serve them. They have no choice in who leads them. They have no rights. Yet, you're sitting here blaming religion when things like this has been happening for decades. You cannot go out of your way to silence the moderates and remove them. It only leaves the voices of the extremists.
I remember watching an interview with a guy who turned on AQ and became a mole for MI6. He said they twist ideology to suit them. An example was of how to reconcile killing Muslims in their attacks. Another was he, while working for us, had to still keep up pretences and encourage people to do the attacks in order to keep his cover.
This isn't about religion. Politics shapes what happens. Religion, society, etc can have an influence. The whole world seems to be lurching to the right. Not just Europe. Even China, Japan, Korea, Philippines, etc. Look at recent happens in India and Burma. Or Bangladesh or Malyasia or CAR. It's a mess.
posted on 5/6/17
comment by CurrentlyInChina84 (U11181)
posted 9 hours, 21 minutes ago
Any ideal can be twisted. Anything that can unite people will also be able to decide people.
The Quran, like someone else mentioned about the Bible, has to be read within context. Verses relate to circumstances. None here are scholars (and even among them there are differing opinions). And people like Mancini are, as can be from what they have written, are either hypocritical or an idiot (or/and something else).
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I don't like to throw insult at anonymous people online but I think you are the idiot here.
You are either an apologist or an ignorant person who has no idea of what they are dealing with.
All people like you do is to find an excuse for the barbaric actions of evil people twisted by their occult-like religion.
You have a religion that is causing carnage and destruction across the globe and yet, you still chose to bury your head in the sand thinking it is something else.
If nothing, at least take the words of these murderers themselves who were heard screaming that they were doing this for "Allah".
Are Sikhs, Hindus, Jews etc going around murdering innocent people all over the world?
These lunatics are simply following the footsteps of their founder as documented in the Quran and the Hadiths. Denying it makes you either a liar or an apologist.
posted on 5/6/17
comment by Darth Stan Kronke the Sith Lord turned Darthen Wenger to the dark side (U16927)
posted 13 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by Thank God for Clippity Klopp (U12976)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
The stuff that's is happening in the UK at the moment is mental. The one thing our government should look at doing is stop it's involvement in wars and conflicts in countries that breed the idiologies that these terrorist believe in.
We can't expect peace in the UK whilst we are bombing the cr4p out of the middle East
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So you think we asa relatively strong country should not help the weak in the Middle East from being attacked, raped, killed, etc?
And what about the fact that ISIS want to impose their rules on the rest of the world and despise western culture so want to attack and kill us whether we are involved in wars or not?
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Yes, war causes more war. If you have your whole family, friends destroyed by UK/US bombs then surely you are going to be bitter. When ISIS come along and offer you shelter help and a way to avenge those lost, do you think people are going to turn it down.
We then have sympathiser in the UK that are marginalised and brain washed with hate.
I just think its a vicious circle and that need to be broken. All the UK government can do is stop there support and help build bridges with these people at the edge of there communities and stop them feeling the need for belonging with ISIS
posted on 5/6/17
mancini
Do you honestly believe if the religion of Islam didn’t exist there wouldn’t be a problem?
To define these skumbags by a religion they have chosen to exploit, is an extremely simplistic way of looking at the problem.
posted on 5/6/17
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 23 minutes ago
mancini
Do you honestly believe if the religion of Islam didn’t exist there wouldn’t be a problem?
To define these skumbags by a religion they have chosen to exploit, is an extremely simplistic way of looking at the problem.
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That is a hypothetical question.
The reality on ground now is that the religion is their inspiration to carry out these violence. The Quran specifically states that dying as a martyr is the most honorable thing for any Muslim. In fact, the prophet himself stated that his desire if possible, is to be reborn and die again as a martyr.
And this has been going on for 1,400 years. Remember the Crusades and Richard the Lion Heart?
posted on 5/6/17
mancini
Being from NI I am acutely aware of the dangers of associating terrorism with religion.
In that for years many folk across the water were fearful of an Irishman walking into a bar. Anyone with an Irish accent was considered to be a potential threat.
Thankfully through dialogue and knowledge attitudes began to change – over time. Many people still (regrettably) feel the same about the Muslin faith – about a quarter of the world’s population.
To address the root cause of terrorism, (and given the exploitation of religion by terrorists) you need to see past the rhetoric espoused by Daesh. Their cause is anything but a religious one.
Much like the bible (and various other religious texts) there are those who misinterpret the Qoran's meaning. Or chose to exploit a particular passage to further their cause.
However to brand an entire religion as the cause of terrorism is extremely short sighted.
posted on 5/6/17
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
mancini
Being from NI I am acutely aware of the dangers of associating terrorism with religion.
In that for years many folk across the water were fearful of an Irishman walking into a bar. Anyone with an Irish accent was considered to be a potential threat.
Thankfully through dialogue and knowledge attitudes began to change – over time. Many people still (regrettably) feel the same about the Muslin faith – about a quarter of the world’s population.
To address the root cause of terrorism, (and given the exploitation of religion by terrorists) you need to see past the rhetoric espoused by Daesh. Their cause is anything but a religious one.
Much like the bible (and various other religious texts) there are those who misinterpret the Qoran's meaning. Or chose to exploit a particular passage to further their cause.
However to brand an entire religion as the cause of terrorism is extremely short sighted.
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Ok I get your sentiments being an Irish.
However, the Irish case was localized and restricted to Ireland. You don't see Catholics and Protestants killing themselves all over the world.
However, recent events from Kenya to the Philippines to Sweden to Germany to France to Nigeria to Iraq to Afghanistan to Yemen to Saudi Arabia to virtually everywhere this faith is practiced, there is terrorism.
If you get rid of Al Qaeda, ISIS will spring up. Get rid of ISIS, another mujaheddin group will take their place.
Europe was almost conquered before until the remaining states set up the Crusades to counter the violent spread of Islam.
They are once more trying again to conquer Europe and sadly, many of us are aiding them.
Think about what will happen to our young men who refuse to convert? Think about how they will treat our women (Rochdale example).
Wake up people. This is all I am saying.
These guys are on a mission to conquer us. They have shouted their intention many times from the rooftop but we are not listening.
posted on 5/6/17
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
mancini
Being from NI I am acutely aware of the dangers of associating terrorism with religion.
In that for years many folk across the water were fearful of an Irishman walking into a bar. Anyone with an Irish accent was considered to be a potential threat.
Thankfully through dialogue and knowledge attitudes began to change – over time. Many people still (regrettably) feel the same about the Muslin faith – about a quarter of the world’s population.
To address the root cause of terrorism, (and given the exploitation of religion by terrorists) you need to see past the rhetoric espoused by Daesh. Their cause is anything but a religious one.
Much like the bible (and various other religious texts) there are those who misinterpret the Qoran's meaning. Or chose to exploit a particular passage to further their cause.
However to brand an entire religion as the cause of terrorism is extremely short sighted.
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Ok I get your sentiments being an Irish.
However, the Irish case was localized and restricted to Ireland. You don't see Catholics and Protestants killing themselves all over the world.
However, recent events from Kenya to the Philippines to Sweden to Germany to France to Nigeria to Iraq to Afghanistan to Yemen to Saudi Arabia to virtually everywhere this faith is practiced, there is terrorism.
If you get rid of Al Qaeda, ISIS will spring up. Get rid of ISIS, another mujaheddin group will take their place.
Europe was almost conquered before until the remaining states set up the Crusades to counter the violent spread of Islam.
They are once more trying again to conquer Europe and sadly, many of us are aiding them.
Think about what will happen to our young men who refuse to convert? Think about how they will treat our women (Rochdale example).
Wake up people. This is all I am saying.
These guys are on a mission to conquer us. They have shouted their intention many times from the rooftop but we are not listening.
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You seem to be categorising Islam alongside terrorism. Which is exactly what Daesh have been trying to achieve.