MAY-pls just pis s off............

comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 17 seconds ago
For as long as you have money in the world there will be no equality, some people are more hard working, some people are lazier. The hard workers should be rewarded accordingly and not punished.
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That would be nice if life is like that, but it's not the HARD workers that get rewarded, it's the high earners, which is different to hard work. And no-one said they should be punished for anything.
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Hmmm. So now we have to separate hard workers who earn a lot through their career and efforts from those who just earn a lot because?

Making them pay more and more disproportionate amounts of tax is punishing them whatever way you want to look at it. And looking at them as the eternal answer to everything time and time again is punishing them even more.

What happens when eventually they tax them again and find they haven't got enough money to do what they promised? Go back again?

Because that is essentially what a Labour government does every time they are in power.

comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 2 minutes ago
Not that you know what a banker is but I blame unscrupulous borrowing, idiot borrowers borrowing more than they can afford (they seem to get no blame for this).

Over here there were a load of idiots borrowing more than they could afford. I see these people here now with 3 mortgagees and struggling. Personally I have no sympathy for them. Don't borrow what you cant pay back. They were not complaining when charging extortionate rents during the boom times.

However the banks also have to take the blame for lending people that much money that they knew they could not pay back. When I took out my mortgage in the early 2000`s, the bank was offering me twice what I was looking for. 3 times I told them I did not want it so they have to assume some of the blame also.
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Then you're not one of the idiotic ones.

People have to held accountable for their own actions.

Agreed Ginger, was just making the point the banks and those who borrowed more then they can afford are both at fault.

What happens when eventually they tax them again and find they haven't got enough money to do what they promised? Go back again?
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What happens when those big companies actually pay the tax they should have? Oh yeah, it's never happened.

comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 22 seconds ago
Agreed Ginger, was just making the point the banks and those who borrowed more then they can afford are both at fault.
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I don't blame the banks for that though. There's plenty other things to blame them for.

It's like a credit card. Keep paying it off and they keep increasing the limit. Refuse it.

When I did international economics at uni, one of the things about the economy is that you should always looks 'one level up' to understand why things happen the way they do. So for example in the 80s when Thatcher sold off council homes, on the 'national' level it was sold as creating a 'homeowner democracy' and all that balls. Actually, it was related to the 'big bang' deregulation of the banking sector. All that housing stock was sold with a mortgage, so the 'public' asset became a 'private' asset for the banking sector. These mortgages were then 'pooled' higher up to the big multinational (american) banks which had initially pushed for Thatcher to sell off the housing stock. Likewise a great deal of government policy is dictated by it's lenders (the big multinational banks/finance houses). Have you ever not done as your bank manager/mortgage provider has told you? The banks want the countries to stay in debt because its easy money/it gives them power. The thing politicians don't want you to realise is how powerless they are to do anything.

comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 3 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by BruceAndPally (U8201)
posted 17 seconds ago
May leaves, meaning the Tory's have a leadership election a week before some of the biggest negotiations our country have ever faced and usher in who? Boris Johnson?

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Its hilarious the alternative to May is that Buffon. Is there anyone else realistically that could take the reins?
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Not sure if the keeper from Juventus is able to pull the country afloat again. He's got little political experience.

comment by Feyenoord Champions (U1250)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 3 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by BruceAndPally (U8201)
posted 17 seconds ago
May leaves, meaning the Tory's have a leadership election a week before some of the biggest negotiations our country have ever faced and usher in who? Boris Johnson?

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Its hilarious the alternative to May is that Buffon. Is there anyone else realistically that could take the reins?
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Not sure if the keeper from Juventus is able to pull the country afloat again. He's got little political experience.
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Lovely hair though👌

comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 2 hours, 32 minutes ago
Not that you know what a banker is but I blame unscrupulous borrowing, idiot borrowers borrowing more than they can afford (they seem to get no blame for this).

Over here there were a load of idiots borrowing more than they could afford. I see these people here now with 3 mortgagees and struggling. Personally I have no sympathy for them. Don't borrow what you cant pay back. They were not complaining when charging extortionate rents during the boom times.

However the banks also have to take the blame for lending people that much money that they knew they could not pay back. When I took out my mortgage in the early 2000`s, the bank was offering me twice what I was looking for. 3 times I told them I did not want it so they have to assume some of the blame also.
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''3 times I told them I did not want it so they have to assume some of the blame also''.

ALL of the blame, not just ''some''.
They are there to make money at ANY COST.

They're just a bunch of swindling c**ts.

comment by Feyenoord Champions (U1250)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 3 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by BruceAndPally (U8201)
posted 17 seconds ago
May leaves, meaning the Tory's have a leadership election a week before some of the biggest negotiations our country have ever faced and usher in who? Boris Johnson?

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Its hilarious the alternative to May is that Buffon. Is there anyone else realistically that could take the reins?
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Not sure if the keeper from Juventus is able to pull the country afloat again. He's got little political experience.
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Dam, beat me to it Buffon would get my vote. What a bloke