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Stadium Rankings

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/emirates-stadium-london-stadium-have-worst-atmosphere-in-premier-league-as-white-hart-lane-tops-a3563386.html

Only one thing surprises me about this ranking and that's United's position for atmosphere. The polar opposite of Liverpool who are third from top, United are third from bottom for atmosphere, behind the likes of Burnley, Hull and Watford and a nose ahead of joke club West Ham and the Olympic an shambles.

This was not always the case. United used to be better than this and there must be a causative agent. I'd say its the style of play.

Not wumming here but let's be honest, the football United play is like inhaling chloroform. It would he hard to create an atmosphere when in such a state. Could that change with the right signings this summer? Or will it stay the same under Jose?

Your views please.

posted on 14/6/17

Klopp is used to the german fans

In their league their tickets are affordable for the real fans. In the UK it is tourists and commercial business people that get all the tickets nowadays.

I live by the Emirates and watch tickets changing hands on the street right outside my house for £200 a pop. Mainly tourists and chinese people buying them.

I hate seeing this happen to the game

I remember paying £2 to get in the Kop in the 80's

posted on 14/6/17

comment by rossobianchi (U17054)
posted 4 hours, 10 minutes ago
Nope, it's not the football; it's the people in the ground.

This is not a new phenomenon - Old Trafford has been this way for more than a decade, and it's directly related to the success of the club and ticket prices.

Where there once were passionate, working class fans in most of the ground are now middle class families from Cheshire. You can watch in the South or North Stands dad watching the game in silence, wife sat next to him looking bored to tears, son playing mobile games and daughter taking selfies and messaging her friends.

It's a tragedy, and it'll only be changed by dropping ticket prices markedly and selling a guaranteed proportion (should be 75% IMO) to local postcodes, which is the first thing I'd do if I was in charge of the club and, back in the real world, will never happen.
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agree with this completely. local fans first.

posted on 14/6/17

It all started with the advent of the PL and an end to beered up local lads attending football matches basically ready for a punch up with rival fans if necessary.

Happy days.

posted on 14/6/17

comment by rossobianchi (U17054)
Nope, it's not the football; it's the people in the ground.
This is not a new phenomenon - Old Trafford has been this way for more than a decade, and it's directly related to the success of the club and ticket prices.
Where there once were passionate, working class fans in most of the ground are now middle class families from Cheshire. You can watch in the South or North Stands dad watching the game in silence, wife sat next to him looking bored to tears, son playing mobile games and daughter taking selfies and messaging her friends.
It's a tragedy, and it'll only be changed by dropping ticket prices markedly and selling a guaranteed proportion (should be 75% IMO) to local postcodes, which is the first thing I'd do if I was in charge of the club and, back in the real world, will never happen.
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Valid points here tbh and that's a good proposal to help atmospheres.

However, there's Dads and families at other grounds too yet the atmosphere at places like Anfield is better. I take your point but it can't all be down to this.

I'm sure United would be better ranked for atmosphere if they had finished 6th while playing better football than what they displayed.

posted on 14/6/17

No Love

That's a possibility; but it's not the primary reason. I went to OT for more than 20 years, and over that time saw an incredible change in the people and atmosphere in the ground on matchdays.

Half of the people in the North and South Stands have probably never been to a game before or don't even really want to be there. Nobody even knows the facking songs anymore (which is a massive tragedy because we unquestionably have the widest and best catalogue of any club in the country).

It was the same in the latter years of Fergie when we were winning titles as it is now, and it's a crying shame. A large part of the soul of the club has been killed.

posted on 14/6/17

Yeah, sad to see United becoming more a tourist attraction than brushing shoulders with other great clubs like Madrid, Barca and Liverpool

posted on 14/6/17

comment by No Love (U1282)
posted 58 minutes ago
Yeah, sad to see United becoming more a tourist attraction than brushing shoulders with other great clubs like Madrid, Barca and Liverpool


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Liverpool only this season extended their ramshackle stadium to squeeze more Norwegians in

Light years behind everyone when it comes to tapping the tourist market

😉

comment by MBL. (U6305)

posted on 14/6/17

comment by Roy's Keen (U11635)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by No Love (U1282)
posted 58 minutes ago
Yeah, sad to see United becoming more a tourist attraction than brushing shoulders with other great clubs like Madrid, Barca and Liverpool


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Liverpool only this season extended their ramshackle stadium to squeeze more Norwegians in

Light years behind everyone when it comes to tapping the tourist market

😉

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Ramshackle great word to get into any thread

comment by aries22 (U1203)

posted on 16/6/17

comment by rossobianchi (U17054)
posted 1 day, 17 hours ago
Nope, it's not the football; it's the people in the ground.

This is not a new phenomenon - Old Trafford has been this way for more than a decade, and it's directly related to the success of the club and ticket prices.

Where there once were passionate, working class fans in most of the ground are now middle class families from Cheshire. You can watch in the South or North Stands dad watching the game in silence, wife sat next to him looking bored to tears, son playing mobile games and daughter taking selfies and messaging her friends.

It's a tragedy, and it'll only be changed by dropping ticket prices markedly and selling a guaranteed proportion (should be 75% IMO) to local postcodes, which is the first thing I'd do if I was in charge of the club and, back in the real world, will never happen.
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This, plus what Roy Keane identified as the prawn sandwich brigade. The should stay away from football, they have no idea what it is to have a club in your blood.

comment by MBL. (U6305)

posted on 16/6/17

comment by aries22 (U1203)
posted 3 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by rossobianchi (U17054)
posted 1 day, 17 hours ago
Nope, it's not the football; it's the people in the ground.

This is not a new phenomenon - Old Trafford has been this way for more than a decade, and it's directly related to the success of the club and ticket prices.

Where there once were passionate, working class fans in most of the ground are now middle class families from Cheshire. You can watch in the South or North Stands dad watching the game in silence, wife sat next to him looking bored to tears, son playing mobile games and daughter taking selfies and messaging her friends.

It's a tragedy, and it'll only be changed by dropping ticket prices markedly and selling a guaranteed proportion (should be 75% IMO) to local postcodes, which is the first thing I'd do if I was in charge of the club and, back in the real world, will never happen.
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This, plus what Roy Keane identified as the prawn sandwich brigade. The should stay away from football, they have no idea what it is to have a club in your blood.
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That is what Roy Keane identified as the prawn sandwich brigade

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