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Total eclipse of the sun

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/fans-manchester-united-chelsea-seventy-13270454

Fans of Manchester City, Manchester United , Chelsea, Arsenal and around 70 other football clubs have agreed to call for a national boycott of The S*n newspaper .

A motion at today’s national Football Supporters Federation (FSF) summit which called on all fans groups to lobby their clubs and retailers in their areas to stop selling The S*n was unanimously passed.


All Premier League fan groups represented including Manchester United, Chelsea and Arsenal and others from the Championship and lower leagues will now go back to their local areas and pick up the campaign that was launched by the Total Eclipse of the S*n group in Liverpool.

The S*n is reviled on Merseyside for its coverage of the 1989 Hillsborough disaster in which 96 Liverpool fans were unlawfully killed and has been boycotted widely in the region.

Both Liverpool and Everton football clubs have this year banned The S*n from all club premises as well.

The motion was proposed at St George’s Park in Burton today by Spirit of Shankly member Roy Bentham and seconded by Dave Kelly of the Everton Supporters Trust.

The fact it was passed means the call to boycott the newspaper is now official Football Supporters Federation policy and means the FSF will now “call on all retailers and vendors of newspapers in their areas to stop selling The S*n."

Good to see actual supporters of rival clubs standing together and telling that vile paper go fook yourself

posted on 5/7/17

comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
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comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 28 minutes ago
I joined PETA about 7 years ago. It gets quite a lot of negative press, mainly because of some of its 'celeb' members but its ethos is roughly the same as mine.

Humans are top of the food chain but with that there should be responsibility.
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The problem with PETA is that they are short sighted..

Like when they freed a load of mink, just let them straight out in to the wild, where they promplty devastated local wildlife and had to be killed.

They also protest the badger cull, which to me is extremley frustrating
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PETA like to spread fake news.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/20/15/27C889B100000578-0-image-a-7_1429539075373.jpg



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No. You made one mistake.

The daily mail spreads fake news. That's all the paper is.

posted on 5/7/17

comment by Quincey peacock, esq. (U19119)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 28 minutes ago
I joined PETA about 7 years ago. It gets quite a lot of negative press, mainly because of some of its 'celeb' members but its ethos is roughly the same as mine.

Humans are top of the food chain but with that there should be responsibility.
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The problem with PETA is that they are short sighted..

Like when they freed a load of mink, just let them straight out in to the wild, where they promplty devastated local wildlife and had to be killed.

They also protest the badger cull, which to me is extremley frustrating
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PETA like to spread fake news.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/20/15/27C889B100000578-0-image-a-7_1429539075373.jpg



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No. You made one mistake.

The daily mail spreads fake news. That's all the paper is.
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It was the first link.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/apr/13/peta-anti-shearing-activist-is-a-spiv-in-a-vegan-wonderland-barnaby-joyce-says

So button it

posted on 5/7/17

comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Quincey peacock, esq. (U19119)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 28 minutes ago
I joined PETA about 7 years ago. It gets quite a lot of negative press, mainly because of some of its 'celeb' members but its ethos is roughly the same as mine.

Humans are top of the food chain but with that there should be responsibility.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The problem with PETA is that they are short sighted..

Like when they freed a load of mink, just let them straight out in to the wild, where they promplty devastated local wildlife and had to be killed.

They also protest the badger cull, which to me is extremley frustrating
----------------------------------------------------------------------

PETA like to spread fake news.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/20/15/27C889B100000578-0-image-a-7_1429539075373.jpg



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No. You made one mistake.

The daily mail spreads fake news. That's all the paper is.
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It was the first link.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/apr/13/peta-anti-shearing-activist-is-a-spiv-in-a-vegan-wonderland-barnaby-joyce-says

So button it
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That's lefty nonsense. Got a real link?

posted on 5/7/17

It's true then.

What happens to all sheep/lambs when they get a coat cut

posted on 5/7/17

There is plenty of footage of the f__ked up way sheep are treated when they are sheered.

Yes, there no doubt are many sheep farmers that take great care with regards the sheering practise, and handling of the animals generally.

But, when you go into Fat Face, M&S, H&M, or (for our continental cousins) C&A, how can you be sure what you're buying is humanely gathered woollen garments?

At least with meat packaging there is at least some vague way of telling. Not so with wool though.

So best to play safe and avoid it altogether.

posted on 6/7/17

comment by Quincey peacock, esq. (U19119)
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comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
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comment by Quincey peacock, esq. (U19119)
posted 6 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 2 hours, 25 minutes ago
I have no problem with cats, or people owning cats.

It does not change the fact that the owners are inserting a non-native hunter in to the local eco-system. One that is akin to tormenting its prey for a considerable amount of time before they kill it.

It is all about where a line is drawn. Is a cat owner who does not put a bell on the collar ultimately responsible for this cruel hunter?

How about an ants nest in the garden? Or slugs? Is it right to commit a genocide on these animals just because they blght a garden's looks?
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Ok, Ledley cats hunt= their nature, and magnificent at it too. Ants nests= nature

Ponse on a horse dressed up as an idiot, chasing a horse= b3llend. Not nature.


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Cats do kill, yes.

They are not an indigenous animal though, and are a blight on birds.

They are the animal equivalent of a foxhunter. Tormenting wild animals for pleasure

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Cats are designed to hunt, everything about them is geared for that, it's their nature, one of evolutions finest creations.

They do not do it for enjoyment, it's what they are programmed to do.

Some tosspot on a horse in a daft outfit chasing a fox is not programmed to do that. It's called being a tw@t.
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Cats are not designed.

They evolved to hunt.

They did not evolve in British suburbs though, they are a ruthless predator we have introduced.

A wild cat will hunt to eat. A domestic cat hunts because it can. It will toy with and torment prey. Horrible little fackers really.

If you buy a cat and do not put a bell onnthe collar, knowing this is what cats do to wildlife, are you much different to a man who lets his dogs kill a fox? You are not involved directly, but it is your choice to buy the cat and let it loose.

posted on 6/7/17

I do want to re-iterate I am playing devil's advocate here.

Where I said about anti fox-hunting having a touch of class war about it, I stand by.

Subsitute fox for hare, and posh for gypsy, and there is much less venom

posted on 6/7/17

Halal is another issue.

Where do we all stand onnslitting of an animals throat so it bleeds to death while still conscious?

comment by MBL. (U6305)

posted on 6/7/17

comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 13 hours, 38 minutes ago
I have a humane mousetrap, it's designed to snare the rodent unharmed so it can be released back into the wild.
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I'm getting images of this mouse bounding off across a sprawling open field with the music of born free playing as you put your arm around the missus smililing the kids cry happy tears for the freed rodent, he's home now he's home.

Beautiful nature at its best.

posted on 6/7/17

comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 10 hours, 58 minutes ago
'Liberating' mink was going on long before PETA was formed and like you say, was a total disaster.

No one has yet convinced me that killing a badger rather than innoculating cattle is justifiable. Please don't mention money considering the £Billions that are floating round the EU.
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Billions that are floating round the EU? Have I missed something? Most countries in the EU don't have an issue, because they Control their apex predators populations.

The problem with innoculating cows is that there is then, no way to tell if they have the actual disease, meaning it has a pathway to the food system, it's not a nice disease to get, a woman raising alpacas caught it from one and was bed bound for 8 months. The last thing we want is easy access to humans for it to mutate in via the food chain.

Not a single country, in the world, ever, has combatted BTB without culling wildlife, the Irish started culling in a 1km zone around any farm that broke down with TB, as well as sending in biosecurity experts to ensure the facilities were adequate to protect the cattle. Withing 10 years they had halved the incidences.

Vaccinating badgers is also not possible due to their protections, vets carrying out vaccinations on national trust land have said its a waste of time and money, firstly they can't test the badgers to see if they already have the disease, which would make the vaccination pointless, secondly they can't mark/chip the badgers to show they have been vaccinated, as it is against the badger protection laws so many badgers are subjected to the vaccine multiple times over the week that they trap and vaccinate in an area, and it's believed that this is actually giving the badger BTB!

In fact, TB breakdowns of herds happen more often on and around national trust land, where they have been vaccinating badgers.

Ultimately, badger protections were bought in because we only had 300 pairs breeding in the wild, there were 1500 in the cull trial area alone, only three things control a population: War, Famine, Disease.

War (being killed) is out, due to protections so that leaves them starving to death due to overcompeting for food or dieing horrifically from TB, which they spread around after being ejected from their sett.

Badger protections have also played a massive role in the falling wild bee and ground nesting bird populations

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