Barkley

What seems to be going over your head is Baker plays for a club were you won't get a chance until you're almost 30 (and no, I'm not proud of that), whereas Barkley has had the good fortune to have been bought up at a club that have had to blood youngsters early!

Even many Everton fans don't think he's good enough to play at their level - they should know!!

I don't follow the opinions of everton fans, I can form my own

Well you seemed to have formed an opinion on Baker, yet I don't believe you have the first idea of his capability - please don't claim you've been following his career at Vitesse closely!

Assuming you haven't I don't see how you're qualified to pass an educated opinion on this!!!!

He's 22 and hasn't been deemed good enough to play at PL level yet. No PL club even wanted to loan him

Plus I've seen him play for England u21 and wasn't impressed

So you've seen loads of him then!


Say no more!

Barkley will without question have the better career. More PL apps, more PL goals, more PL assists, more England apps, more England goals, more England assists, more European apps, goals, assists

I personally think his career is going backwards.

I also mentioned Loftus Cheek, yet you've not mentioned him but only singled out Baker, is there anything that can be read into that?

I rate Loftus Cheek

We have 2 major talent's from the academy.

One is in this season's squad and the other will hopefully have a breakthrough season at Swansea and follow in his footstep's. Abraham is only the second player from our ranks i have been sure will make it, although having said that the other was McEachran

The reason I asked, was I rate Baker more highly than Loftus Cheek!

Certainly more dynamic!

I think this has come to an amicable stalemate now - thanks for the debate!