.... whoooa, living on a prayer! π€
Afternoon gents,
So after last nights win vs Apoel and Dortmund's second loss of the group stages it means we have a 6-point cushion over them in the race to qualify for the last 16. I think I saw some comments on the match thread (I occasionally browse on there just to get a flavour of live reactions to matches) where 1 or 2 people stated we're possibly just a win away from qualifying but I'm not too sure.
If we work on the basis that everyone is going to beat Apoel then it means that everyone else will be picking up plenty of points, however if we also assume that Real Madrid win all their games then there's the possibility that they put out a weakened team vs Dortmund in the last game and purposely pick up suspensions in the 5th game vs Apoel to wipe the slate clean.
I reckon we'll need 11-12 points to guarantee we get through. You get these rare occasions when teams go out with 10 points as I think Napoli did in 2013 when they were in the same group as Dortmund and Arsenal and missed out on the head-to-head rule I believe so we're going to need to beat Apoel again and avoid defeat in Dortmund, then maybe grab a draw vs Madrid in one of the games.
We've given ourselves a good chance with the start we've had but I don't see 9 points as being enough to be honest.
UPDATE
Following the draw in the BernabΓ©u and Dortmund failing to win in Nicosia, it leaves us with a 6 point cushion over Dortmund and level on points with Real Madrid. A maximum of 4 points is required for us to make the last 16, or 3 points if we can avoid losing by a score greater than 3-1 in Germany
COYS!!
We're more than halfway there.....
posted on 27/9/17
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 6 minutes ago
It is head to head first, only down to GD if both results are the same.
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So... if Dortmund & us get the same number of points then its down to .....
posted on 27/9/17
comment by itsonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 15 minutes ago
We could potentially go out with 12 points
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Didn't that happen to Napoli once? In a group with Dortmund and an English side?
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Rings a bell. Arsenal?
posted on 27/9/17
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 6 minutes ago
It is head to head first, only down to GD if both results are the same.
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So... if Dortmund & us get the same number of points then its down to .....
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head to head.
posted on 27/9/17
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 6 minutes ago
It is head to head first, only down to GD if both results are the same.
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So... if Dortmund & us get the same number of points then its down to .....
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If we get the same points as Dortmund it goes on either:
1. Aggregate over the two games if they beat us in Dortmund and we end up on the same points as them (and them only)
2. We go through if we draw/win in Dortmund but end up on the same points as them (and them only).
3. If 3/4 teams end up on the same points, it goes on a mini-league of those sides. I believe it goes on GD, then GS, then pick a straw!
posted on 27/9/17
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by itsonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 15 minutes ago
We could potentially go out with 12 points
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Didn't that happen to Napoli once? In a group with Dortmund and an English side?
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Rings a bell. Arsenal?
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Yes in 13/14. Can’t remember who the other club were in the group but Napoli, Arsenal and Dortmund all beat each other.
posted on 27/9/17
Marseille.
posted on 27/9/17
comment by Ledders' knee surgeon - Football Manager Icon. (U20121)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by itsonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 15 minutes ago
We could potentially go out with 12 points
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Didn't that happen to Napoli once? In a group with Dortmund and an English side?
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Rings a bell. Arsenal?
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Yes in 13/14. Can’t remember who the other club were in the group but Napoli, Arsenal and Dortmund all beat each other.
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I thought it was City for some reason. They've drawn Dortmund a couple of times I think.
posted on 28/9/17
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 4 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 6 minutes ago
It is head to head first, only down to GD if both results are the same.
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So... if Dortmund & us get the same number of points then its down to .....
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If we get the same points as Dortmund it goes on either:
1. Aggregate over the two games if they beat us in Dortmund and we end up on the same points as them (and them only)
2. We go through if we draw/win in Dortmund but end up on the same points as them (and them only).
3. If 3/4 teams end up on the same points, it goes on a mini-league of those sides. I believe it goes on GD, then GS, then pick a straw!
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I've got just the straw for you!
posted on 18/10/17
comment by itsonlyagame (U6426)
posted 3 weeks ago
Madrid won't finish on 18 points, and APOEL won't finish on 0.
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posted on 19/10/17
comment by itsonlyagame (U6426)
posted 23 hours, 55 minutes ago
comment by itsonlyagame (U6426)
posted 3 weeks ago
Madrid won't finish on 18 points, and APOEL won't finish on 0.
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You called it
OP updated