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Ashes Starting Line Up for 1st test

Based on the squad chosen, which i'm not entirely happy with this would be starting 11 for the 1st test.

1) Cook
2) Stoneman
3) Ballance/Vince
4) Root
5) Moeen
6) Bairstow
7) Stokes
8) Foakes
9) Woakes
10) Broad
11) Anderson

Not happy about either Vince or Ballance in the squad and feel that will be a definite weakness at 3 and Stoneman may struggle as he hardly set the world alight against the windies but apart from that I feel we have a strong batting line-up from 4-8 and Cook. Woakes and Broad can also chip in and Anderson knows how to defend and rotate the strike when with a set batsman.

Foakes scored a world class 127 against South Africa's 1st team for the lions in June and is a superior batsmen to Ballance/Malan/Vince and should be selected ahead of them.

If we want another bowler, probably Overton, we can drop whoever is batting at 3 and move Root and everyone else up one or drop Foakes.

posted on 22/11/17

I don’t think Ball is clear cut but agree that he’s probably favourite. Which is a shame.

comment by TCM (U8959)

posted on 22/11/17

comment by Blue Heaven (U20912)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by The Candlestick Maker (U8959)
posted 22 hours, 47 minutes ago
Ball had a decent season last year but has been pretty quiet since. He's done okay in the limited overs cricket for Notts but considering they were in division 2, didn't take enough wickets in first class cricket for me.

Overton has been improving over the last few seasons and deserves his place in the squad and (with no Stokes or TRJ) the starting XI.
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Ball will play not Overton, otherwise the team is as expected.
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Do you think that's the right call if that is the case or do you just expect the selectors to pick Ball?

posted on 22/11/17

I think Ball seems pretty much guaranteed, England selectors are quite loyal with players that have been involved in and around the squad for longer. I don't think he'll last long though.

comment by TCM (U8959)

posted on 22/11/17

I've just seen that Ball is going to be selected ahead of Overton. Wrong call but the game doesn't hinge on who plays out of those 2. I think Ball will get some smashed about so Overton will get a chance although obviously hopefully Ball will show us what he's made of.

posted on 22/11/17

comment by The Candlestick Maker (U8959)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by Blue Heaven (U20912)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by The Candlestick Maker (U8959)
posted 22 hours, 47 minutes ago
Ball had a decent season last year but has been pretty quiet since. He's done okay in the limited overs cricket for Notts but considering they were in division 2, didn't take enough wickets in first class cricket for me.

Overton has been improving over the last few seasons and deserves his place in the squad and (with no Stokes or TRJ) the starting XI.
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Ball will play not Overton, otherwise the team is as expected.
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Do you think that's the right call if that is the case or do you just expect the selectors to pick Ball?
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The team has been named. Ball will play.

https://www.ecb.co.uk/news/517492

Whether it's the correct decision, who knows? I hope at least Ball is fully fit and stays that way.

comment by TCM (U8959)

posted on 22/11/17

Also talk of Moeen coming in at 6 with Bairstow remaining at 7. Just let him stay behind Jonny in the batting line up and try not to change too much with the absence of Stokes.

comment by TCM (U8959)

posted on 22/11/17

comment by Blue Heaven (U20912)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Candlestick Maker (U8959)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by Blue Heaven (U20912)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by The Candlestick Maker (U8959)
posted 22 hours, 47 minutes ago
Ball had a decent season last year but has been pretty quiet since. He's done okay in the limited overs cricket for Notts but considering they were in division 2, didn't take enough wickets in first class cricket for me.

Overton has been improving over the last few seasons and deserves his place in the squad and (with no Stokes or TRJ) the starting XI.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Ball will play not Overton, otherwise the team is as expected.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you think that's the right call if that is the case or do you just expect the selectors to pick Ball?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

The team has been named. Ball will play.

https://www.ecb.co.uk/news/517492

Whether it's the correct decision, who knows? I hope at least Ball is fully fit and stays that way.
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Yeah I've just seen. Don't fully agree with it but it is what it is. Overton offers more with bat and ball and in the absence of Stokes. Let's hope Ball can prove us wrong though and do what the likes of Finn and Tremlett did 7 years ago.

posted on 22/11/17

Good that they are picking the better bowler and not worrying if he can bat or not.

posted on 22/11/17

comment by Bennythedip - Living The Dream (U9359)
posted 2 minutes ago
Good that they are picking the better bowler and not worrying if he can bat or not.
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Is he the better bowler? Nothing I have seen suggests that.

comment by TCM (U8959)

posted on 22/11/17

comment by The Candlestick Maker (U8959)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Blue Heaven (U20912)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Candlestick Maker (U8959)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by Blue Heaven (U20912)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by The Candlestick Maker (U8959)
posted 22 hours, 47 minutes ago
Ball had a decent season last year but has been pretty quiet since. He's done okay in the limited overs cricket for Notts but considering they were in division 2, didn't take enough wickets in first class cricket for me.

Overton has been improving over the last few seasons and deserves his place in the squad and (with no Stokes or TRJ) the starting XI.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Ball will play not Overton, otherwise the team is as expected.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you think that's the right call if that is the case or do you just expect the selectors to pick Ball?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

The team has been named. Ball will play.

https://www.ecb.co.uk/news/517492

Whether it's the correct decision, who knows? I hope at least Ball is fully fit and stays that way.
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Yeah I've just seen. Don't fully agree with it but it is what it is. Overton offers more with bat and ball and in the absence of Stokes. Let's hope Ball can prove us wrong though and do what the likes of Finn and Tremlett did 7 years ago.
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in the absence of Stokes, we could do with someone who offers more with both bat and ball*

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