Surely all these things don't belong in elite athletic level sport!!
When you think of the olympians you think of the best naturally gifted specimens of human beings competing and setting the standard for what the best human being is capable of doing.
I cant believe all these asthma sufferers are winning gold medals and being allowed to take these performance enhancing drugs under the veil of its therapeutic.
Wiggins even had the nerve to claim they were to level the playing field so he can compete with other athletes who don't have asthma!.NOOO!! If you've got asthma you just were not meant to spend 3 weeks flat out on a bike in the alps. Its nonsense and its cheating.
Also its a bit rich of us claiming Russian doping is institutionalised when quite clearly Team GB is fully behind all these TUEs.
I wouldn't be surprised if half these athletes don't even have asthma
Asthma, TUEs and Olympic sports
posted on 16/12/17
comment by #4zA - #savethedonkeys (U19575)
posted 3 hours ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
I wouldn't have an issue with them all being able to take any drug that one athelete is permitted to take due to a genuine health condition
So that doesn't mean any drug is fine but stuff like asthma medicine would be... or eczema or whatever although no doubt you'd still run into trouble somewhere
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Asthma medication improves oxygen intake functions.
so if ur breathing system is already good then the meds wud give u a nice extra boost
as i actually have asthma, the medication allows me to breathe normally but my cardio ability is still very limited
these guys claiming they have asthma really do not have it at any meaningful level.
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I used to have it badly too but luckily not anymore. I thought the meds just reopened the airways which were stupidly closing themselves?
posted on 16/12/17
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posted on 16/12/17
comment by Dave NotSo #savetheasses (U11711)
posted 46 minutes ago
Scruttocks, they can act like anabolic steroids in some cases by improving lean muscle mass I believe.
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Ah really, definitely didn't have that effect on me
posted on 16/12/17
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posted on 16/12/17
comment by Dave NotSo #savetheasses (U11711)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Dave NotSo #savetheasses (U11711)
posted 46 minutes ago
Scruttocks, they can act like anabolic steroids in some cases by improving lean muscle mass I believe.
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Ah really, definitely didn't have that effect on me
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It's Saturday arvo here and lunch at the cricket so had a read up on Salbutamol which was what Froome has tested at double the acceptable level.
It isn't known to be acting like an anabolic steroid, but it does have a number of functions that could help an elite athlete. The pharmacological properties would mostly help. Anything that is lowering the AP of calcium and potassium ions channels in muscles, and reducing inflammatory response is going to help both performance and recovery.
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That's interesting, from a personal POV I've always avoided the medication when possible as a doctor (about 20 years ago) told me if I kept relying on it I'd end up with the lungs of a 90 year old by 40!
posted on 16/12/17
comment by Dave NotSo #savetheasses (U11711)
posted 8 hours, 24 minutes ago
I smashed my pb last year on an annual charity bike race after a friend gave me some ADHD meds.
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Look, I know you're the scientist around here, but I'm pretty sure the pe·nis doesn't actually have a bone.
posted on 16/12/17
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Dave NotSo #savetheasses (U11711)
posted 8 hours, 24 minutes ago
I smashed my pb last year on an annual charity bike race after a friend gave me some ADHD meds.
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Look, I know you're the scientist around here, but I'm pretty sure the pe·nis doesn't actually have a bone.
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Good post.
posted on 16/12/17
More to the topic, the TUEs a huge no. of cyclists and lots of other sportspeople get given are for exercise-induced asthma (e-i bronchoconstriction in modern terminology), which affects a very high % of people who do intense exercise.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/dec/28/asthma-elite-athletes-study-swimmers-cyclist-eid
It's been covered in the media, but as is the case pretty much everywhere, they're readier to make excuses and more reluctant to cry foul when it's a country's own athletes.
I'm pretty ambivalent on this. Doping and, more generally, cheating is almost intrinsic to professional cycling going back the dawn of the sport.
posted on 16/12/17
I've got a book of anecdotes about cheating, doping and various rogue antics in cycling, focusing mainly on the TdF. It's hilarious.
posted on 18/12/17
World champion Justin Gatlin in new doping scandal
http://dailym.ai/2oBuNsu via @MailOnline
Telegraph expose on Gatlin's team offering peds
Wish theyd put the nail into Mo Farahs coffin instead of pusșyfooting around the issue.