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PGMOL Statement on.. that Offside

A PGMOL spokesman said: "Jon Moss was in a good position to see that a Liverpool player deliberately played the ball before it fell to Harry Kane in the penalty area. He then correctly judged that Kane was fouled by Lorius Karius.

However, given the speed of the attack, he was uncertain of the identity of the Liverpool player who kicked the ball. Eddie Smart, having identified that Kane was in an offside position, correctly sought clarification on whether Dejan Lovren had deliberately played the ball.

"His question created some momentary confusion when Eddie asked if 'Lovren' had touched the ball. Moss knew a Liverpool player had touched the ball but not that it was Lovren.

"He then asked a question to his fourth official Martin Atkinson and acknowledges that referencing 'TV' was misguided. Atkinson did not reply to the question and so had no involvement in the decision.

Having properly reflected on the questions asked, Jon knew that a Liverpool player, now identified as Lovren, had played the ball and that no offside offence had occurred. He then awarded the penalty.

"For the avoidance of doubt, Atkinson did not view a television monitor and did not relay any information to the on-field officials.

"In real time this was a difficult series of decisions, which the match officials judged correctly in recognising that Kane was not offside, as Lovren had deliberately played the ball, and he was fouled for the award of the penalty kick.

"The interpretation of 'deliberately' kicking a ball considers whether a player has intentionally tried to kick a ball - it does not consider whether the ball ends up where a player may have wanted to kick it."

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This is a poor statement from the PGMOL.

Why is the identity of the player of any relevance?

Complete BS

posted on 5/2/18

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posted on 5/2/18

It was only a matter of hours ago to be fair.

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posted on 5/2/18

Wessie, yep that's precisely what I was thinking. The issue of identifying the player that touched it is irrelevant if Moss knows it was a Liverpool player that did it. Yet at no time does he mention that he saw a Liverpool player touch the ball. This is clearly a made up excuse. Poor form from all involved.

posted on 5/2/18

comment by Alexis The King Sanchez (U10026)
posted 12 minutes ago
Wessie, yep that's precisely what I was thinking. The issue of identifying the player that touched it is irrelevant if Moss knows it was a Liverpool player that did it. Yet at no time does he mention that he saw a Liverpool player touch the ball. This is clearly a made up excuse. Poor form from all involved.
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Funny thing is,Im pretty sure the only other player who was close by, and might of created this so called confusion for Moss, in regards to who touched the ball, was Georginio Wijnaldum.
So what hes supposedly saying, is hes not sure if it was Wijnaldum, or Lovren.

posted on 5/2/18

Yeah I was thinking that. Only other players in his line of sight were Van Dijk, Can and I think the Ox. And he still couldn't supposedly identify the white man.

posted on 5/2/18

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posted on 5/2/18

Leaving aside the ‘dodgy penalty’ debate as no one is going to back down on that the worrying thing to me is how casually he asks the fourth official if he could tell from the video. PGMOL have seen fit to make a statement that Atkinson did not take part in the decision but it could appear that refs are routinely asking for video reviews outside of the VAR protocol.


BTW as if Atkinson was ever going to say no pen the Manc ###%

posted on 5/2/18

comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 4 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - sometimes I jump into people and then charge them with assault (U6374)
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comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 1 day, 5 hours ago

Not to turn this into a debate but the penalty you got against WBA, the way Salah went to ground was embarrassing. Yes, it was a penalty but the way he exaggerated it deserved further punishment IMO.
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Hi Bake 'em.

Any thought on the punishment you feel Kane and Lamela should get yet?
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Same as Salah for his theatrics against WBA. Nothing as all were fouls.

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Bake 'em, as a Red, I've got to agree. Mo's antics at WBA was an embarrassment on that dive.

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