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Simple facts

- Man Utd finished their final season under Van Gaal in 5th place. They are currently in 2nd place under José Mourinho
- Since Mourinho has taken over at Manchester United, the club has spent approx £295 million in transfers. Manchester City have spent approx £438 million. Chelsea (in 5th place) have spent approx £359 million. Manchester United have not outspent their rivals, this is a myth.
- In three years combined under David Moyes and Louis Van Gaal, Manchester United won 1 trophy. In under two years under Jose Mourinho Manchester United have won 2 trophies. In the 7 years combined that Jurgen Klopp has spent at Liverpool and Mauricio Pockets has spent at Tottenham the two TOGETHER have won precisely ZERO trophies. ZERO.
- Manchester United have scored 58 goals in 30 premier league games this season so far. In the 2015-16 season under Louis Van Gaal Manchester United scored only 49 goals in the full 38 game premier league season. Manchester United scored 62 goals in the full 38 games in the 2014-15 season under Louis Van Gaal, a total which is likely to be surpassed by Jose Mourinho’s team this season.
- Under Louis Van Gaal Manchester United conceded 37 goals in the 2014-15 season and 35 goals in the 2015-16 season. Under Jose Mourinho Manchester United have conceded only 29 goals in the entire 2016-17 season and so far just 23 goals in 30 games in the 2017-18 season.
- So far in the 2017-18 premier league season, the top 6 mini league reads:
P W D L GD Pts
- 1. Manchester City 8 7 0 1 +15 21
- 2. Manchester Utd 8 4 1 3 +1 13
- 3. Tottenham 8 3 1 4 -1 10
- 4. Liverpool 9 2 4 3 -4 10
- 5. Chelsea 8 2 3 3 -1 9
- 6. Arsenal 9 1 3 5 -10 6
So Manchester United’s big game record is superior to all teams this season aside from Man City.

These are all undeniable facts, not opinions. The full picture that these facts paint is that Mourinho has Manchester United in a strong position and that subjective complaints about style of play can only go so far when you assess just how much Manchester United have improved under Jose Mourinho and how well they are doing compared to their rivals aside from the anomaly that is Man City this season. Claims that this is due to money is refuted by the fact that both Manchester City and 5th place Chelsea have spent more money since Mourinho has taken over.

The conclusion? Take a step back and calm down and fairly assess Mourinho. No more knee jerk whining. Look at the facts and consider both sides of the story. Make decisions based on logic, not emotion.

posted on 18/3/18

comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 19 minutes ago
How does Wahl generate so many comments.....

Even though I’ve just added another one
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I’m not Wahl so I got no idea. Dunno what relevance that has to this article either

posted on 18/3/18

comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 8 minutes ago
How does Wahl generate so many comments.....

Even though I’ve just added another one
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Because deluded people who only see things from one side are often hilarious as they crack when they can't comprehend how there can be people with opposing views. The fact that firstly nobody agrees and secondly they have to create a new account to air their deluded views doesn't register either. It's meltdown stuff. A bit like Mourinho's recent meltdown.
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I’m deluded? I gave you 4 factual reasons as to why Mourinho has done better than Klopp and you just flat out ignored them. You’re the one burying your head in the sand. 4 factual reasons.

posted on 18/3/18

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posted on 18/3/18

Wahldude has his facts straight.

Facts > fackhts

posted on 18/3/18

comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Black Starr (U12353)
posted 8 minutes ago
How does Wahl generate so many comments.....

Even though I’ve just added another one
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Because deluded people who only see things from one side are often hilarious as they crack when they can't comprehend how there can be people with opposing views. The fact that firstly nobody agrees and secondly they have to create a new account to air their deluded views doesn't register either. It's meltdown stuff. A bit like Mourinho's recent meltdown.
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I’m deluded? I gave you 4 factual reasons as to why Mourinho has done better than Klopp and you just flat out ignored them. You’re the one burying your head in the sand. 4 factual reasons.
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I didn't say he hasn't done better. It's all relative however.

Football eritage.

posted on 18/3/18

comment by #4zA - #savethedonkeys (U19575)
posted 30 minutes ago
Fact 1: Napoli r grate
Fact 2: Donkeys r grate
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What about a donkey in a Roma kit?

posted on 18/3/18

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posted on 18/3/18

comment by #4zA - #savethedonkeys (U19575)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by #4zA - #savethedonkeys (U19575)
posted 30 minutes ago
Fact 1: Napoli r grate
Fact 2: Donkeys r grate
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What about a donkey in a Roma kit?
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hmmmm

that is a real quandry

i wud say that the donkeys grateness wud win out as donkeys do not care for such piffle as soccer so safe to assume a dumb human put the Roma jersey on the donkey.
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I get your point.

posted on 18/3/18

comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 3 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
So Klopp has taken Liverpool from 6th to 4th without winning any trophies
And Mourinho has taken United from 5th to 2nd winning two trophies in the process
And Liverpool fans are having a go? Looooool
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When have united finished second?

Pretty sure Jose has taken United from 5th to 6th so far.
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2nd currently, likely they’ll finish 2nd
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Well then we’re 3rd currently, you can’t use the current position for one side but last seasons for another. Be consistent.

posted on 19/3/18

comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 7 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 3 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
So Klopp has taken Liverpool from 6th to 4th without winning any trophies
And Mourinho has taken United from 5th to 2nd winning two trophies in the process
And Liverpool fans are having a go? Looooool
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When have united finished second?

Pretty sure Jose has taken United from 5th to 6th so far.
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2nd currently, likely they’ll finish 2nd
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Well then we’re 3rd currently, you can’t use the current position for one side but last seasons for another. Be consistent.
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So using Jose's logic and going by football eritage, Klopp is doing a great job. This is... Football eritage.

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