Club should / could do much more

Best bet is to hop on a cheap flight to the main land and then get a flight from a major european airport, like Schiphol.

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
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Think a day trip is costing at least a grand, that’s without a hotel or ticket, with your taking about 3-5k in many cases

Club will do nothing
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Try a different airport, I think London is the best bet, as usual for anything non standard-and let’s face it Kiev bookings will have an 300% upwards-rate since the final teams were announced. Airlines are Caants.

Fack me. For a laugh I had a quick look at how much a flight out of Heathrow (figuring biggest airport best coverage would cost) 1,3k! With a change. You may need to get creative here...

Watch it down the local....
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Are airlines kants or are they just business wise?

Do you pay more for a Cat A premier league match?
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Typical posh boy view. Airlines do the same during school holidays, so yes, they’re utter caants.
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For a poster I usually like, that is just an absurd comment.

When resources are scarce and demand is high then of course it’ll cost more. Not only is that a fundamental of economics, it’s plain common sense. To dismiss it as a ‘posh boy view’ is ridiculous.

Every business in the world tries to develop a demand such that they can get away with overcharging for it. Every single one. Thomas cook are massive overcharging and given the demand, rightly so. If they didn’t their CEO should be fired.

But my point is, the level of increase is way too much, considering the target consumer. Some of these supporters will no doubt find the money, but at what cost? No family holiday, big increase in personal debt?

It’s immoral, because these companies know die hard supporters will go to any lengths to make that trip. Which is why I find people like Fred, who clearly comes from a privileged background, so irritating. His comment that if you want something, then you just have to pay for it, is arrogant beyond belief.

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 17 minutes ago
But my point is, the level of increase is way too much, considering the target consumer. Some of these supporters will no doubt find the money, but at what cost? No family holiday, big increase in personal debt?

It’s immoral, because these companies know die hard supporters will go to any lengths to make that trip. Which is why I find people like Fred, who clearly comes from a privileged background, so irritating. His comment that if you want something, then you just have to pay for it, is arrogant beyond belief.


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Possibly but there’s also a ring of truth to what he says. The companies put the prices to that level because people will pay it. If you’re waiting for a company to display morality over profit then you’re in for a hell of a wait.

There are things I want but can’t afford. Everyone makes decisions, it’s not up to companies to make everything affordable. I know it’s not your intent but it feels a little bit ‘millennial’ in terms of entitlement.

I don’t mean this to be offensive Term but it’s also fairly selective morality. You’re talking about going to a country that are poor, quick google search tell me the average monthly wage is about £150 (£200 in Kiev). These people couldn’t even hope to buy a ticket yet we’re complaining about the price of a flight to their country to watch a game.

Not quite sure your points are really valid to this case though. If you were a season ticket holder, been to every league game, and home CL game, with maybe an away trip thrown in, which imo would make you an ardent supporter, then found yourself completely priced out of the final, you’d rightly feel very hard done by.

This isn’t the same as maybe wanting a Jaguar and having to settle for a Mondeo. And it really isn’t selective morality, as the standard of living in Ukraine has nothing to do with this. You might have a point if the profits from all this overpricing were going to the people of Ukraine and I was saying they shouldn’t be getting it, but it isn’t......

Ok, maybe I was a bit hasty. It sounds like you do think certain people are entitled to go at a price they can afford.

And the point about the Ukraine was simply that you referred to the travel companies as immoral. I wouldn’t consider that immoral, I’d consider people going to a poor country and flashing money about to be immoral. It’s subjective. Poorly worded though I admit, typing whilst out shopping!

But what do you consider as ‘flashing money about’?

If it’s spending that gives money to local business and thus to actual Ukrainian people, then I’d say you’re contradicting yourself....... So to take that a step further (purely hypothetical), if fans didn’t have to spend so much paying to get to the Ukraine then they might have more money to put into the local economy, thus actually helping them.

Who do you consider to need the money more, the airline companies, or the Ukrainian people?

Ok, maybe I was a bit hasty. It sounds like you do think certain people are entitled to go at a price they can afford.
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That’s kind of my point. Those that have followed the club to virtually every game shouldn’t suddenly have the dream final that they’ve worked towards seeing all season, suddenly ripped away from them.

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
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Ok, maybe I was a bit hasty. It sounds like you do think certain people are entitled to go at a price they can afford.
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That’s kind of my point. Those that have followed the club to virtually every game shouldn’t suddenly have the dream final that they’ve worked towards seeing all season, suddenly ripped away from them.
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Then I’m going to have to respectfully disagree mate. I don’t think anyone is entitled to go irrespective of how many games they’ve watched in the build up. Think we just fundamentally disagree on this point.

Fair enough. I don’t think someone is entitled to go just because they have a bigger bank balance. Nothing worse than someone bragging ‘I was there’, when it’s the only game they’ve been to.

Btw, my argument is specific to this case, not to life in general.