Auba

comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 7 minutes ago
A lot of people agree that Auba doesn't work out wide and yes he shouldn't replace Laca as a central striker. That's what this forum is all about. Difference of opinions.
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In what way doesn't he "work out wide"? He scores, he assists, and Arsenal have won 4 out of 5 games he played there, scoring 14 goals and only conceding 5.

What doesn't work about that?

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by THE bag (U11806)
posted 9 minutes ago
This is the most negative article I've read on the Arsenal board here in a long time
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How is praising Auba negative? How is praising Laca negative? How is asking fans to support the team negative?

The only negativity here is towards the people who are negative.
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Why won't you just agree with me for once? So negative

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 7 minutes ago
A lot of people agree that Auba doesn't work out wide and yes he shouldn't replace Laca as a central striker. That's what this forum is all about. Difference of opinions.
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In what way doesn't he "work out wide"? He scores, he assists, and Arsenal have won 4 out of 5 games he played there, scoring 14 goals and only conceding 5.

What doesn't work about that?
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His link up play is poor and and hardly uses his pace on the flanks. He could maybe work in a 4-4-2 but I just feel there are better options out wide who will give us more control, strength and defensive cover.

It's still early and he could flourish in that roll but against packed defences, I just feel that players like Iwobi or even Welbeck will give us more

Iwobi and Welbeck have far worse records than Auba from the left.
The teams record is not as good - either offensively or defensively - with Iwobi and Welbeck on the left.

So not sure what you are basing this on bar your own personal dislike of Aubameyang.

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 59 minutes ago
Iwobi and Welbeck have far worse records than Auba from the left.
The teams record is not as good - either offensively or defensively - with Iwobi and Welbeck on the left.

So not sure what you are basing this on bar your own personal dislike of Aubameyang.
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I think Castor has explained that his link up play isn't great plus he can't use his pace. The Iwobi, Welbeck comparison is irrelevant as both are generally thought to be sub par so simply being better than them isn't enough. Auba is in a different class and his value is probably at least 3 times there's so it is correct that he is placed under more scrutiny than a 1 goal in 5 game player like Welbeck.

Having said all that, I'm not for a moment in the 'drop Auba' minority as I rate him highly. However, despite his goals record, I do think he is less effective on the wing than when played centrally.

I think Castor has explained that his link up play isn't great plus he can't use his pace.
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Yes, that is why he wants Auba dropped from the team. He discounts goals as an irrelevance. You know, the most important aspect of football is irrelevant because as an attacker he doesn't defend enough for Castors liking.


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The Iwobi, Welbeck comparison is irrelevant as both are generally thought to be sub par so simply being better than them isn't enough.
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How is the comparison irrelevant? They are who Castor is calling for Auba to be dropped for. Auba is better than both but should be dropped for them? That is what Castor wants.

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Auba is in a different class and his value is probably at least 3 times there's so it is correct that he is placed under more scrutiny than a 1 goal in 5 game player like Welbeck.

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So Welbeck should start ahead of Auba because there are less expectations? We know Welbeck is crap so play him so we won't be disappointed in his expected crapness?



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I do think he is less effective on the wing than when played centrally.
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Of course he is. But you have to look deeper into it and ask if we as a team are better with Auba and Laca in the team or one benched. Results say the former is true.

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 42 minutes ago
I think Castor has explained that his link up play isn't great plus he can't use his pace.
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Yes, that is why he wants Auba dropped from the team. He discounts goals as an irrelevance. You know, the most important aspect of football is irrelevant because as an attacker he doesn't defend enough for Castors liking.


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The Iwobi, Welbeck comparison is irrelevant as both are generally thought to be sub par so simply being better than them isn't enough.
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How is the comparison irrelevant? They are who Castor is calling for Auba to be dropped for. Auba is better than both but should be dropped for them? That is what Castor wants.

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Auba is in a different class and his value is probably at least 3 times there's so it is correct that he is placed under more scrutiny than a 1 goal in 5 game player like Welbeck.

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So Welbeck should start ahead of Auba because there are less expectations? We know Welbeck is crap so play him so we won't be disappointed in his expected crapness?



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I do think he is less effective on the wing than when played centrally.
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Of course he is. But you have to look deeper into it and ask if we as a team are better with Auba and Laca in the team or one benched. Results say the former is true.
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I agree that I'd prefer to see Auba play on the wing (even if less effective) if it means that Laca also plays. However, this is risky against the bigger teams as Auba offers less defensively than either Welbeck or Iwobi.

I think we need to tighten up considerably defensively before Laca and Auba pair up every week. I'd rather drop Ozil and replace him with Welbz or Iwobi as he offers even less than Auba defensively and of course scores far less (although scoring isn't his game admittedly)

But both Welbeck and Iwobi have proved ineffective defensively against big teams many times. So a slight improvement on Aubas defensive work is hardly worth sacrificing his goal scoring ability.
The trick is to improve the midfield by playing 3 in there, allowing them to support the full backs rather than expecting attackers to do it.

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 3 minutes ago
But both Welbeck and Iwobi have proved ineffective defensively against big teams many times. So a slight improvement on Aubas defensive work is hardly worth sacrificing his goal scoring ability.
The trick is to improve the midfield by playing 3 in there, allowing them to support the full backs rather than expecting attackers to do it.
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I agree that although slightly better than Auba defensively both of them are still pretty inadequate.
I guess their workrate goes in their favour and they can break opposition attacks down just by simply being in the way rather than through any defensive nous.

The team as whole hasn't performed against the bigger teams recently but I do recall Iwobi doing well last season at Stamford Bridge in the 0-0.

I also agree that we need to improve our midfield and tighten the gap between them and our defence in order to allow both Auba and Laca to flourish as a partnership. I would suggest that dropping 1 of Ozil or Mkhi could be the only way to do this

Who is saying this????
Pipe dreams from the old 5-2