‘I heard the crack of Ramsey's leg from the bench,' Kitson recalled in his Sun column. 'I heard the screaming. And the build-up to the game contributed to this moment.
'Stoke manager Tony Pulis absolutely despised Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger, hated the way he played.
'All week I had never seen a manager so desperate to win a game of football, it was bordering on out of control.
'I remember Pulis pacing up and down shouting random things — this bundle of nervous energy blurting random swear words, trying to burn off his own nervous energy.
'And, of course, the upshot of all of that energy was that we went over the top and it cost Ramsey a year of his career.'
'Wenger gave me this look of complete and utter disappointment — the kind of look your dad gives you when you've f***** up, when he's gone beyond anger.
Still shocking
posted on 30/11/18
"...it cost Ramsey a year of his career.'"
And the rest, it took him years to really get back on track. Long after he was running around again did he actually get his confidence back, you could see it.
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Sensible comment, half the United board were calling Shaw sheite after he almost lost his leg after a horrific leg break.
posted on 30/11/18
Guardiola is making Ferguson’s tenure look very basic.
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Absolutely he is. Ferguson with his budget and superior players over the years failed to deliver a brand of football to light up the game.
Against Arsenal he would wheel out the likes of Park, Fletcher, P. Neville and Anderson to break up play.
He did not bring players on to the level of Guardiola. And no the Class of whenever were playing against Darius Vassell, Vinnie Jones and Nick Bendtner.
Wenger and Guardiola are the two managers to date who as Muhammad Ali said “Shook up the world”
posted on 30/11/18
Shook up the world by losing to teams made up of players like Park, Fletcher, P. Neville and Anderson?
posted on 30/11/18
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
Pulis wasn't the only one. The thought process was to kick Arsenal out of games, even Fergie resorted to it.
The refs are heavily culpable here, they let so much go and then would bring a red out for any sign of Arsenal retaliation.
After the invincibles season it reached a peak.
So glad we have players like Sokratis, Lichtsteiner and Torreira who will stand up redress the balance.
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Agree about the refs, once they see that the likes of Reyes and Fabregas are being targeted they should have been dishing out yellow cards to calm things down a bit.
But, the Arsenal-United games in the late 80s through to the mid-00s often spilled over with both teams overstepping the mark at times, around 05/06 Arsenal became, well, "soft" tbh and United continued the physical aspect of the rivalry up to the point where we could contain Arsenal without the rough stuff.
Just on the Shawcross - Ramsey thing, it went far beyond just being "physical", Shawcross was out of control and about 10-15 minutes prior to his challenge on Ramsey he flew in on Samir Nasri in a similar way, sprinting from a distance, flying in but Nasri saw it coming and jumped out of the way. It was a really, really poor challenge from Shawcross.
posted on 1/12/18
comment by San Miguel (U1449)
posted 15 hours, 3 minutes ago
Then we have Campbell deliberately elbowing Solskjaer square in the face
How Wenger even dared moan about teams roughing his own up beggars belief
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Absolute nonsense, he should never have been sent off. Solskjaer cheated, put his hands to his face to pretend he's been elbowed in the face when in fact the arm & elbow struck him across his chest and not even hard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GphUsrnuAew&feature=youtu.be&t=93
posted on 1/12/18
*he'd.
posted on 1/12/18
Watch from 1:37 and you'll see the truth.
posted on 1/12/18
comment by You Can't Buy Class (U12019)
posted 2 hours, 54 minutes ago
Watch from 1:37 and you'll see the truth.
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Yep, looks worse every time you see it, clear elbow to the face
posted on 1/12/18
clearly conning the ref, you must be blind
posted on 1/12/18
This San Miguel guy is deluded. Didn't Roy Keane set out to intentionally injure a player and end his career and was proud of it? Aalf Haaland I believe it is. It was apparently revenge for a tackle Haaland made 3 and half years prior but still that was disgraceful behaviour.