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NLD: Bigger for Arsenal than Spurs?

Arsenal players are still celebrating Sunday’s win on Social Media, although their players, past and present, are known for overdoing it in that regard.

You could hear a pin drop at 95% of games at The Emirates, it was by all accounts rocking on Sunday.

When we went on that horrendous run of years and years without being Arsenal, when we did finally get a couple of wins, the players and the fans celebrated like crazy because it wasn’t expected.

Nowadays, we are more often than not the favourites in this fixture and the opposite is true – albeit to a lesser extent.. Arsenal fans and players go mental when they beat us. They up their game massively, just like West Ham do when they play us. See last season, Arsenal completely upped their game at The Emirates and ran out deserved winners - this in a season when they were in turmoil and could barely put a good string of performances together, never mind results.
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Poch on Arsenal's celebrations:

Pochettino last week praised his players' "humble" reaction to their own derby victory over Chelsea.

And, when asked on Tuesday how he feels about dressing-room selfies and crowing social media posts, he said: "Personally, I don't like it.
"Obviously if you win a trophy, like I won when I was a player, it's a moment to celebrate. For me -- this is my mentality and I don't want to say it's right or wrong -- I love to celebrate in private and not make it public. I love to celebrate the things with your teammates.

"If you win, of course celebrate and show the fans you're happy -- it's fantastic -- but when you win a trophy, when you win something special.
"In the end, Arsenal and Tottenham, we are on 30 points each. We're in a similar position, still with a lot of things to play for. But to be sporting enemies is a fantastic thing and I don't want to criticise what people want to do.

"When people celebrate like this, it's because they respect you and see you as a big club," he said. "When we arrived here five years ago, the derby was a little bit 'well it's normally Arsenal always above Tottenham.' But now the last two seasons we were above [them], and how they celebrate, of course it's a derby but you start to see [those social media posts].

"It was a massive win for them, of course, and for us it was a massive disappointment -- but it showed the respect that we got in the last few years with our performances, with our results.

Our chief scout Steve Hitchen was at the Liverpool game against Everton and was watching our game before in the stadium -- and when Arsenal scored the third goal all the Liverpool fans celebrated, like Arsenal celebrated after.

"It's clear we're doing something good. I love it when the people celebrate when they beat you. I don't like it when the people don't celebrate because it's normal to beat Tottenham."
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So basically what Poch is saying, is that Arsenal celebrated the victory like they won a trophy (Like West Ham do when they beat us). Poch and Spurs have a lot to learn and address before they start winning trophies, but that’s a whole different point.

He mentions that our Chief Scout was at the Scouse Derby, and Liverpool fans celebrated Arsenal’s goals. This shows that we’re seen as more of a threat to Arsenal in the long-term and that the biggest clubs in the country take us very seriously.

I pose you this question – is the NLD now bigger for Arsenal than it is for Spurs? I would say so, but not by much.

comment by Chronic (U3423)

posted 6 days, 5 hours ago

comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 27 minutes ago
What have the Arsenal fans done which is going way overboard with the celebrations?
you lot are just making stuff up now.
There's been more articles from Spurs fans than Arsenal fans about Sunday's defeat. One group of fans are going OT about the result and it's not us.
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JA606 doesn't speak for the whole of each clubs fan base.
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seems obvious doesn't it Edbo... only a simpleton could miss the point that this is clearly aimed at the wider fan base and players, and mostly their social media activity.

posted 6 days, 5 hours ago

comment by Chronic (U3423)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 27 minutes ago
What have the Arsenal fans done which is going way overboard with the celebrations?
you lot are just making stuff up now.
There's been more articles from Spurs fans than Arsenal fans about Sunday's defeat. One group of fans are going OT about the result and it's not us.
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JA606 doesn't speak for the whole of each clubs fan base.
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seems obvious doesn't it Edbo... only a simpleton could miss the point that this is clearly aimed at the wider fan base and players, and mostly their social media activity.
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only a simpleton would make such a dumb comment, who do you think was going to reply to the op's question "the wider fan base, the players, or people on social media?'

posted 6 days, 3 hours ago

Should still be big for both, but in the grand scheme of things, I view it about as equal as facing the rest of the ‘big 6’. Beating arsenal twice but finishing 5th would do nothing for me come the end of the season

posted 6 days, 3 hours ago

comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
comment by Chronic (U3423)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 27 minutes ago
What have the Arsenal fans done which is going way overboard with the celebrations?
you lot are just making stuff up now.
There's been more articles from Spurs fans than Arsenal fans about Sunday's defeat. One group of fans are going OT about the result and it's not us.
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JA606 doesn't speak for the whole of each clubs fan base.
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seems obvious doesn't it Edbo... only a simpleton could miss the point that this is clearly aimed at the wider fan base and players, and mostly their social media activity.
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only a simpleton would make such a dumb comment, who do you think was going to reply to the op's question "the wider fan base, the players, or people on social media?'
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Chronic isn't the brightest fella around tbh.

I'll give him benefit of the doubt and assume he's still sore from the game. He did think spurs would smash us after all.

posted 6 days ago


We'll see. That wasn't meant as a WUM or a joke, from what I see Spurs may be going into a slight decline. That's from a very high place btw but I think you'll be going from title challengers to in the battle for top four.

This isn't just down to a Spurs decline, this is City taking themselves to a level never seen before in this league and Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal getting their sheet together.
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Slightly strange comment, We beat Chelsea last week to go above them. Arsenal beat us to go above us on goal difference.

Tonight if both Chelsea and Arsenal lose or draw and Spurs win then we leap frog both of them into 3rd place.

So where does that leave your comments in your last paragraph about Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea getting their sheet together?

The season is 38 games long not 14 games!
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I rest my case

posted 5 days, 23 hours ago

comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 22 minutes ago

We'll see. That wasn't meant as a WUM or a joke, from what I see Spurs may be going into a slight decline. That's from a very high place btw but I think you'll be going from title challengers to in the battle for top four.

This isn't just down to a Spurs decline, this is City taking themselves to a level never seen before in this league and Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal getting their sheet together.
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Slightly strange comment, We beat Chelsea last week to go above them. Arsenal beat us to go above us on goal difference.

Tonight if both Chelsea and Arsenal lose or draw and Spurs win then we leap frog both of them into 3rd place.

So where does that leave your comments in your last paragraph about Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea getting their sheet together?

The season is 38 games long not 14 games!
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I rest my case
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I'll leave the same reply I left earlier because reading is obviously a struggle for you. Perhaps doing so twice might help...

Seems you're getting wound up because you believe I'm saying Spurs are being over taken by these teams

I'm saying Spurs are declining while they're getting better. This is making things more equal, by the end of the season I believe Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs will be competing for fourth (possibly along with Pool depending on how they get on)

In seasons past Spurs were more comfortable, however due to a lack of investment in your squad and changes in your rivals the gap has closed

posted 5 days, 23 hours ago

How are we declining and Arsenal & Chelsea improving?

Does the table lie?

My point is that people reaching conclusions at this stage of the season is not only futile, it is com_lete;y wrong<ok?

posted 5 days, 23 hours ago

comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 11 minutes ago
How are we declining and Arsenal & Chelsea improving?

Does the table lie?

My point is that people reaching conclusions at this stage of the season is not only futile, it is com_lete;y wrong<ok?
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You look worse than previous seasons while Arsenal and Chelsea look better. That is literally all I'm saying.

IMO by the end of the season there'll be a close run race for top four and Spurs will be in it rather than comfortably in front

posted 5 days, 15 hours ago

“ North London is red “



Yeh for 3 days back where you belong Arsenal, below Spurs. Now get back in your box!!!

posted 5 days, 14 hours ago

Yappy goooooners back where they belong, below us even after 20 games unbeaten ..whilst we are in real decline winning 11 out of 15

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