Taking our current form and City bottling it into account, you’d have to say United are the best team in Manchester at the moment.
Best team in Manchester?
posted on 10/12/18
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
Organically successful clubs!
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Yes.
Ignorance of history is no defence.
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Neither is conveniently made up history.
City fans have never once denied that we are where we are through investment. Substantial investment, and yes we regard ourselves very fortunate in regards to what has happened since we were taken over.
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So you don't deny the term financial doping can be used to refer to City?
If so then there's no problem at all.
posted on 10/12/18
Conveniently made-up history would be one in which peole claim that major clubs haven’t benefitted from investment.
City have benefitted from investment. So has Liverpool. United. Barcelona. Madrid. Both Milan clubs. Arsenal. Etc etc etc.
I said that I don’t deny that city have benefitted from investment. You responded by saying that I therefore agree that City have been financially doped. If that is the meaning of term, if that’s how you understand the term, then all the clubs mentioned above have been financially doped at some point in their history.
posted on 10/12/18
“Why can't City fans accept their lottery win and move on rather than force themselves upon the fraternity of organically successful clubs? I know I wouldn't care if I was a City fan and I don't understand the vehement defence of what is otherwise clear as crystal.“
Why can’t others accept and move on and admit they’re “financially doped”...?
Pretty sure you’re wumming now though so I’ll leave it there.
posted on 10/12/18
It's funny during the hicks and Gillette period of ownership there were many a Liverpool fan on this board crying for a takeover from Arab or Russian billionaires
posted on 10/12/18
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
It's funny during the hicks and Gillette period of ownership there were many a Liverpool fan on this board crying for a takeover from Arab or Russian billionaires
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Because anything would have been better than those clowns.
posted on 11/12/18
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
Conveniently made-up history would be one in which peole claim that major clubs haven’t benefitted from investment.
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There is investment and then there is financial doping.
Two separate things.
All other posts are just conjecture. What City did is unprecedented and its normal you've all deluded yourself to change the story of City because the truth of would be too uncomfortable to live with.
You need to convince yourselves like this in order to reach a place where you can enjoy the current success deep down we all know you won the lottery and even after that your owner jacked you up using any illegal means he could find.
This fact has the potential to spoil things for fans because things won in this manner tend to be empty, soulless victories and thus you've come up with some theories and convinced yourselves its true.
The same rationale is also behind City fans not caring about their owner's human rights record and instead City fans defend him by striking back with 'your owner did this or that too' responses.
Its the same rationale with financial doping and City fans want to say to others 'your club did it once too'.
Its all a bit of Alice in wonderland and once you've convinced yourselves that your delusions are fact, it allows your conscience to support your club without flinching on behalf of all the people who suffer because of the sheikh, all those denied their rights, falsely imprisoned and many other terrible acts, not to mention blatant cheating at levels never seen before.
Supporting City is like supporting a sprinter who you know is on steroids.
With other sprinters relying on glucose, citrus fruits and lucozade to help their performance, the sprinter you support is jacked up with EPO to his eyeballs.
You then convince yourself by saying 'they've all used steroids at some point in the past so it's ok for us to do the same'.
I'm not trying to stop you guys from this delusion because without it, supporting your club would be very difficult, just trying to explain the dynamic behind it, that's all
posted on 11/12/18
MBL I am not a geologist but I am alright at geography.I am a person who has only lived in England for 3-4 years of my life!
posted on 11/12/18
comment by ZahraIhsanphile (U20361)
posted 2 hours, 38 minutes ago
MBL I am not a geologist but I am alright at geography.I am a person who has only lived in England for 3-4 years of my life!
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Then here is a nugget of geographical knowledge for you.
Salford isn’t in Manchester it’s a city in its own right.
Saying Salford fc is the best club in Manchester is incorrect.
Hope that helps.
posted on 11/12/18
" it allows your conscience to support your club without flinching on behalf of all the people who suffer because of the sheikh,"
Liverpool supporters or United fans?
posted on 11/12/18
All of us.