Putting aside the Premier League for a bit, maybe even I think that Spurs will not win that this season, although the season doesn`t end in January, but in May, so until it is mathematically impossible you have to keep trying. Having said that City will probably retain it this season. Anyway I digress, what I think Spurs should be concentrating on is making a real go of trying to win the CL now. Basically you only have to navigate through another seven games, don`t even have to win them all. You need to be good on the road in the CL, able to grind out results away from home, Spurs tick that box emphatically. Best away record in the Prem. In the CL they have just one away defeat in two campaigns, and that at Inter, where they should have won, having gone to Juventus, Real Madrid, Borussia Dortmund, Barcelona, etc and managed to come away with very favourable results. Add to the fact Spurs should be in their very intimidating new home by the time the round after this comes around and I reckon Spurs could make a real fist of it this season.
Not saying put all your eggs into one basket, but a CL trophy sitting alongside the Carabou Cup come the end of the season, would be a pretty decent return. Can Spurs win it?
Make the CL a priority now, yes or no?
posted on 15/1/19
I'd be prioritising the league cup or FA cup (along with a top 4), theres no way spurs should be making the Champions League a priority.
The league cup will be hard to win aswell if you have Kane out & no son for the chelsea game and then even if you do scrape through city will be even harder.
posted on 15/1/19
comment by Pâî§Lë¥'š _P䆆ê®ÑëÐ_ÐrÊåm§ (U1541)
posted 25 minutes ago
You have said many times recently that spurs have "the best squad in the league"
Your team and manager have failed you badly if this is the case.
Are we getting close to the first "POCH OUT" of the season?
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I think Sandy is the only person who thinks that.
Most of us realistic fans know we're way off Liverpool and City.
We have a first XI (when all fit) capable of challenging, but take 2-3 out of that team and we have no one of similar caliber to replace them.
posted on 15/1/19
Why not the CL we won it in 2005,not impossible sandy with a bit of luck
posted on 15/1/19
comment by Doovdé™ (U2996)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Pâî§Lë¥'š _P䆆ê®ÑëÐ_ÐrÊåm§ (U1541)
posted 25 minutes ago
You have said many times recently that spurs have "the best squad in the league"
Your team and manager have failed you badly if this is the case.
Are we getting close to the first "POCH OUT" of the season?
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I think Sandy is the only person who thinks that.
Most of us realistic fans know we're way off Liverpool and City.
We have a first XI (when all fit) capable of challenging, but take 2-3 out of that team and we have no one of similar caliber to replace them.
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We may be way of City as it stand, but no way are Spurs way of Liverpool. They have just been dumped out of both domestic cup competitions at the first hurdle. Sure they are doing it in the Prem, but football is about more than just one competition. They have even lost every away game in the CL this season. Spurs are at the very least on par with Liverpool.
posted on 15/1/19
comment by der kloppites (U13373)
posted 2 seconds ago
Why not the CL we won it in 2005,not impossible sandy with a bit of luck
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Exactly, cup competitions are not always won by the best teams. Not sure why our fans want us to prioritise finishing top four, so we can enter the CL again next year, and then not compete and try to win it again. It don`t make sense. If you are in a competition as a top three club in the Prem, as Spurs are, then surely they have to try and win it.
posted on 15/1/19
comment by Jase (U21768)
posted 32 minutes ago
I'd be prioritising the league cup or FA cup (along with a top 4), theres no way spurs should be making the Champions League a priority.
The league cup will be hard to win aswell if you have Kane out & no son for the chelsea game and then even if you do scrape through city will be even harder.
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Better to have City in a one off game though. At least in a one off game I suppose you can rely on luck a bit more.
posted on 15/1/19
comment by Doovdé™ (U2996)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Pâî§Lë¥'š _P䆆ê®ÑëÐ_ÐrÊåm§ (U1541)
posted 25 minutes ago
You have said many times recently that spurs have "the best squad in the league"
Your team and manager have failed you badly if this is the case.
Are we getting close to the first "POCH OUT" of the season?
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I think Sandy is the only person who thinks that.
Most of us realistic fans know we're way off Liverpool and City.
We have a first XI (when all fit) capable of challenging, but take 2-3 out of that team and we have no one of similar caliber to replace them.
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I think Spurs have by far the 3rd best first eleven in England. If you kept everyone fit and in form you'd challenge every year for titles and no doubt win a few. Howevefr, as we all know it is impossible to keep everyone fit and firing over a long season and that is your problem as your backup simply is no where near the quality of Liverpool and City.
You are Arsenal of 10 years ago when we had the likes of RvP, Fabregas and Nasri, Toure, Clichy and Arshavin and always looked close to making that step from good on the eye, media darlings challengers to actual trophy winners. If the club doesn't invest and strengthen then eventually those players will look elsewhere.
Poch is working miracles to keep you up there and you are lucky to have a great striker in Kane who may well have left a few years ago if he wasn't such a spurs boy.
Interesting couple of years ahead for you.
posted on 15/1/19
comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 31 seconds ago
No chance mate. We might get far in the competition who knows, but do we have the bottle to actually go on and win it? Not a chance mate. If we are finding it virtually impossible to win a domestic trophy, I really can’t see us winning one of the hardest of them all.
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Don, I think we have to make a real go of it. I still think we will win the Carabou Cup this season, and that will then be the stepping stone to the CL. Spurs have proved very resilient in cup competitions this season, it is what it is. I would fancy Spurs over two legs against any club, especially if we get back to the new ground, make it a fortress. It will make a massive different to playing at Wembley. Next season the new WHL could be worth 15-20 points more. Wembley is holding Spurs back.
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Sandy
Honest question, do you ever use logic in anything you say or think? On what basis do you believe Spurs will win the Carabou Cup? Getting to the final is in your hands - fair enough but why do you think Spurs will beat Man City?
There is no logic behind this and, like your pre season predictions of Spurs winning the Prem, this is based purely on your support and wishes rather than any sound thinking.
I expect you not to answer this and to filter me as you do everyone who supports a different club who questions you.
Be interesting to hear some of your thinking though....
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Er why would I filter you, you are not insulting me, or generally wumming, absolutely no need to. I am happy to discuss any topic re football, with a bit of banter included, provided it does not cross the boundaries of decency, as I do with the vast majority of posters. Those that want to just post insults, or general rubbish, I reserve the right to filter. Simple rule really.
Anyway back to your original question `on what basis do you think Spurs will beat City`
1. It`s a game of football between two sides, anything could happen on the day.
2. Spurs have been for the past three or four years one of the top two or three clubs in the country, so why would they not have a chance of winning?
3. Spurs, even since City have won the lottery, have beaten City on a few occasions, before the Lottery, beat them practically every season home and away, so it is not completely unknown for Spurs to beat City.
4. Wigan beat City in a cup final, and Spurs are a lot, lot better a side than Wigan.
5. Arsenal recently beat City in a semi-final, and Spurs are a lot, lot better than any recent Arsenal side.
6. City have been beaten by both Leicester and Palace in the past couple of months, and Spurs are a lot, lot better than both of those sides.
I could go on, but I think you will get the gist. City are good, but they are not unbeatable. Spurs if they do reach the final, will have a more than decent chance of lift the trophy.
posted on 15/1/19
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 31 seconds ago
No chance mate. We might get far in the competition who knows, but do we have the bottle to actually go on and win it? Not a chance mate. If we are finding it virtually impossible to win a domestic trophy, I really can’t see us winning one of the hardest of them all.
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Don, I think we have to make a real go of it. I still think we will win the Carabou Cup this season, and that will then be the stepping stone to the CL. Spurs have proved very resilient in cup competitions this season, it is what it is. I would fancy Spurs over two legs against any club, especially if we get back to the new ground, make it a fortress. It will make a massive different to playing at Wembley. Next season the new WHL could be worth 15-20 points more. Wembley is holding Spurs back.
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Sandy
Honest question, do you ever use logic in anything you say or think? On what basis do you believe Spurs will win the Carabou Cup? Getting to the final is in your hands - fair enough but why do you think Spurs will beat Man City?
There is no logic behind this and, like your pre season predictions of Spurs winning the Prem, this is based purely on your support and wishes rather than any sound thinking.
I expect you not to answer this and to filter me as you do everyone who supports a different club who questions you.
Be interesting to hear some of your thinking though....
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Er why would I filter you, you are not insulting me, or generally wumming, absolutely no need to. I am happy to discuss any topic re football, with a bit of banter included, provided it does not cross the boundaries of decency, as I do with the vast majority of posters. Those that want to just post insults, or general rubbish, I reserve the right to filter. Simple rule really.
Anyway back to your original question `on what basis do you think Spurs will beat City`
1. It`s a game of football between two sides, anything could happen on the day.
2. Spurs have been for the past three or four years one of the top two or three clubs in the country, so why would they not have a chance of winning?
3. Spurs, even since City have won the lottery, have beaten City on a few occasions, before the Lottery, beat them practically every season home and away, so it is not completely unknown for Spurs to beat City.
4. Wigan beat City in a cup final, and Spurs are a lot, lot better a side than Wigan.
5. Arsenal recently beat City in a semi-final, and Spurs are a lot, lot better than any recent Arsenal side.
6. City have been beaten by both Leicester and Palace in the past couple of months, and Spurs are a lot, lot better than both of those sides.
I could go on, but I think you will get the gist. City are good, but they are not unbeatable. Spurs if they do reach the final, will have a more than decent chance of lift the trophy.
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Respect to you for responding. Fair play.
In response, having a chance in a 2 horse race is obvious and cannot be disputed. Indeed, you have a decent record against City so cannot be ruled out at all. However, this is not what I'm saying. What I don't get is the logic behind any of this.
It it possible although not likely that Spurs will defeat Chelsea and then City in the cup just as it was possible though not likely that a squad not strengthened in the Summer would win the title as you predicted.
Your predictions are simply not based on any sound judgement and are just what you'd like to happen rather than what is likely. For example, I could say that Arsenal will embark on a winning run and nab not only 4h spot but the Europa League. Possible? Yes, but in reality will it happen no.
posted on 15/1/19
comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 31 seconds ago
No chance mate. We might get far in the competition who knows, but do we have the bottle to actually go on and win it? Not a chance mate. If we are finding it virtually impossible to win a domestic trophy, I really can’t see us winning one of the hardest of them all.
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Don, I think we have to make a real go of it. I still think we will win the Carabou Cup this season, and that will then be the stepping stone to the CL. Spurs have proved very resilient in cup competitions this season, it is what it is. I would fancy Spurs over two legs against any club, especially if we get back to the new ground, make it a fortress. It will make a massive different to playing at Wembley. Next season the new WHL could be worth 15-20 points more. Wembley is holding Spurs back.
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Sandy
Honest question, do you ever use logic in anything you say or think? On what basis do you believe Spurs will win the Carabou Cup? Getting to the final is in your hands - fair enough but why do you think Spurs will beat Man City?
There is no logic behind this and, like your pre season predictions of Spurs winning the Prem, this is based purely on your support and wishes rather than any sound thinking.
I expect you not to answer this and to filter me as you do everyone who supports a different club who questions you.
Be interesting to hear some of your thinking though....
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Er why would I filter you, you are not insulting me, or generally wumming, absolutely no need to. I am happy to discuss any topic re football, with a bit of banter included, provided it does not cross the boundaries of decency, as I do with the vast majority of posters. Those that want to just post insults, or general rubbish, I reserve the right to filter. Simple rule really.
Anyway back to your original question `on what basis do you think Spurs will beat City`
1. It`s a game of football between two sides, anything could happen on the day.
2. Spurs have been for the past three or four years one of the top two or three clubs in the country, so why would they not have a chance of winning?
3. Spurs, even since City have won the lottery, have beaten City on a few occasions, before the Lottery, beat them practically every season home and away, so it is not completely unknown for Spurs to beat City.
4. Wigan beat City in a cup final, and Spurs are a lot, lot better a side than Wigan.
5. Arsenal recently beat City in a semi-final, and Spurs are a lot, lot better than any recent Arsenal side.
6. City have been beaten by both Leicester and Palace in the past couple of months, and Spurs are a lot, lot better than both of those sides.
I could go on, but I think you will get the gist. City are good, but they are not unbeatable. Spurs if they do reach the final, will have a more than decent chance of lift the trophy.
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Respect to you for responding. Fair play.
In response, having a chance in a 2 horse race is obvious and cannot be disputed. Indeed, you have a decent record against City so cannot be ruled out at all. However, this is not what I'm saying. What I don't get is the logic behind any of this.
It it possible although not likely that Spurs will defeat Chelsea and then City in the cup just as it was possible though not likely that a squad not strengthened in the Summer would win the title as you predicted.
Your predictions are simply not based on any sound judgement and are just what you'd like to happen rather than what is likely. For example, I could say that Arsenal will embark on a winning run and nab not only 4h spot but the Europa League. Possible? Yes, but in reality will it happen no.
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Sorry Dan, I don`t quite get what you are getting at Football is not an exact science, I have given several reasons why Spurs have a chance. They have recently played both Chelsea and Man United, were completely outplayed by Chelsea and won, and completely outplayed United and lost. That is what happens in football, it is not always what you expect.
Spurs not strengthening in the summer would have absolutely no bearing on a off match over 90 minutes, where any of the two teams could win. We have seen it so many times where the best team on paper does not always win.
Not sure why you also would not think Arsenal could not finish 4th, if they are good enough they will. Form is only temporary. Anything could happen. Plenty of poor teams have turned it around second half of the season, and plenty of good teams have absolutely collapsed.