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posted on 15/1/19
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posted on 15/1/19
The May Brussels deal was dead and is now buried!
We voted to leave and not for no deal, but we parliament and Brussels have messed this up, we leave on 29/3/19.
People voted to leave and mps are there to arrange how, not to thwart or ignore the peoples vote!!!I
If democracy is betrayed we remove trust in politics and po!iticians.
If remain want to,, they can campaign in the future to rejoin!
There is a managed leave, not no deal crashing off a cliff spin👍
posted on 15/1/19
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 7 minutes ago
I absolutely agree. But following the ideals of its supporters isn't what it's about. The supporters should be followers of the party due to its ideals.
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Really? I don't think it's been that way for generations. People shape parties and reflect society today. The people that help shape those policies are the supporters.
Corbyn would probably have been considered moderate 50-60 years ago, the idea of left wing has changed because the supporters of the party have changed. Not reflecting back your supporter base is a dangerous game imo.
posted on 15/1/19
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posted on 15/1/19
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 7 minutes ago
I absolutely agree. But following the ideals of its supporters isn't what it's about. The supporters should be followers of the party due to its ideals.
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Really? I don't think it's been that way for generations. People shape parties and reflect society today. The people that help shape those policies are the supporters.
Corbyn would probably have been considered moderate 50-60 years ago, the idea of left wing has changed because the supporters of the party have changed. Not reflecting back your supporter base is a dangerous game imo.
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I'm not sure that the supporters are the cause of the shift in what is considered moderate and extreme to be honest.
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More changes in society but the supporters will be reflection of that change.
Good chat anyway greatteams.
posted on 15/1/19
Labour (well, Corbyn) hasn’t stuck to his principles at all.
I do agree the window has shifted right a lot though.
posted on 15/1/19
On this whole “but Scotland is a country” malarkey.
Legally define a country:
Autonomous state by virtue of Government and President
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is the country. Not England; not Scotland (though they once were and may well be one day in the future).
The moment Scotland voted against devolution, it continued to be legally held as a singular, holistic country along with England, Wales, and N. Ireland.
posted on 15/1/19
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posted on 16/1/19
This is leave, not no deal!
May and Brussels tried to see us a pup as that deal was paying for the ability to have no say....why bother when we can leave and save forty billion for starters?
Being talked to by unelected little Brussels Hitler's may be ok to some, but not most of the uk, leave or remain.
posted on 16/1/19
comment by rooney_hernandez (U7012)
posted 20 hours, 33 minutes ago
On this whole “but Scotland is a country” malarkey.
Legally define a country:
Autonomous state by virtue of Government and President
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is the country. Not England; not Scotland (though they once were and may well be one day in the future).
The moment Scotland voted against devolution, it continued to be legally held as a singular, holistic country along with England, Wales, and N. Ireland.
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When did Scotland vote against devolution?