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Hypothetical Question Re: Reiss Nelson

As Arsenal have made it abundantly clear that our owner has no intention of investing any of his personal wealth into the club, it means we will persist with this self-sustaining model.

So a lot of the money we have for transfers will be from match day revenue, commercial deals and player sales.

People have questioned why 'resale value' is so important, but the truth is, if this is the strategy the club will adopt for the foreseeable future, then resale value is important because:

A) If a player doesn't cut it for us, they are still at an age where we can sell them to a club who feel they are young enough to improve. We've already got too many mediocre/ageing players on lucrative contracts that we've been unable to shift. That's why the age of a player can be very important.

B) If a player is doing extremely well, or if there is a youth prospect that someone wants to take a punt on, and a club offers a big fee, then the profit we make on that transfer can be reinvested into strengthening other parts of the team.

Liverpool have mastered this art and we could learn a thing or two from them.

With this in mind, I want to ask you guys a hypothetical question.

On the basis of Bayern Munich bidding around £40m for Hudson-Odoi, Solanke's move to Bournemouth fetching Liverpool £19m and Brahim Diaz being sold to Madrid from City for £22m;

If a club tabled a bid of around £50m-£60m for Reiss Nelson, would any of you take it, assuming we used that money, alongside the money we get in the Summer, to reinvest in other areas of the squad?

5 = Yes

3 = Not sure

1 = No way

posted on 29/1/19

You could have made that argument for Liverpool’s previous owners, Randy Lerner at Villa and Ellis Short at Sunderland.
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They didn't pay £550m for 30% of the club giving it a real value!

posted on 29/1/19

comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 2 hours, 11 minutes ago
Obviously yes, he's not shown anything on the pitch to say he'd be worth that much. In fact 10m would be a very high bid for him
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Ridiculous comment. Players who have done far less on the pitch havd gone for more than double that.

comment by Samir (U2630)

posted on 29/1/19

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 4 minutes ago
You could have made that argument for Liverpool’s previous owners, Randy Lerner at Villa and Ellis Short at Sunderland.
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They didn't pay £550m for 30% of the club giving it a real value!
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I don’t see the point you’re making here? Why does that give you confidence he will invest in the team?

posted on 29/1/19

comment by Samir - In Unai We Trust (U2630)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 4 minutes ago
You could have made that argument for Liverpool’s previous owners, Randy Lerner at Villa and Ellis Short at Sunderland.
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They didn't pay £550m for 30% of the club giving it a real value!
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I don’t see the point you’re making here? Why does that give you confidence he will invest in the team?
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Because he has spent money at the valuation of £1.8Bn. This is what Arsenal is worth to him.

Owners in the past have bought clubs at lower values and as the market has grown their club values have increased. But they haven't put money in to value their club at those values. For example Mike Ashley.

But Stan Kroenke actually has spent his own money at a valuation of £1.8Bn.

comment by Samir (U2630)

posted on 29/1/19

Honestly, J99, despite my reservations, I sincerely hope you're right about this. We need investment and we need to become a top club again.

Don't want us to be languishing in mid table obscurity for the next decade.

posted on 29/1/19

M8 there is very little we can do. I take solace in the fact that it was Kroenke who has valued the club at £1.8Bn. Its not like Roman trying to get £1Bn of his spent money back by valuing Chelsea at £2Bn (with a tiny stadium).

Values of clubs also go down. And very quickly. Look at whats happened to Aston Villa and Lerner. Or for how long Mike Ashley has been trying to sell Newcastle.

I don't like Kroenke remaining silent when we were dropping out of the CL. But he did fire Wenger so obviously seems to been managing the situation in the background.

posted on 29/1/19

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 2 hours, 11 minutes ago
Obviously yes, he's not shown anything on the pitch to say he'd be worth that much. In fact 10m would be a very high bid for him
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Ridiculous comment. Players who have done far less on the pitch havd gone for more than double that.
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I actually got him confused with someone else then felt a bit embarrassed to correct the mistake.

He's worth keeping and looks very promising although 50m would be too much to turn down. That's enough for a proven first team signing, maybe even two

posted on 29/1/19

posted on 29/1/19

100% no

He may or may not make it but he looks an excellent prospect and plays in a position we are seriously lacking (although I believe a lot of his appearances for Hoffenheim come from a central position).

Liverpool only sold young players who they know weren’t good enough ie Solanke and Ibe. Chelsea are refusing to sell CHO because he seems like a proper talent. Chelsea have binned the likes of KdB, Salah and Lukaku at young ages for fees that today would be the fraction of their worth (maybe not so much Lukaku). And now that Abramovich isn’t pumping his own money into the club anymore they can’t afford to make those mistakes again.

What’s scary from an Arsenal perspective is that Reiss Nelson is probably one of the most valuable assets we have at the club. Apart from the likes of Bellerin, Torreira and MAYBE Aubameyang, I can’t see any players in our squad who would demand a higher asking price.

posted on 29/1/19

We need to get an owner who’ll will invest Wenger was just part of the problem

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