Even radio Leicester are at it now i am used to the usual moaners coming and to be fair they have it in for most managers and their hate players whos normally foreign i am afraid.
We had Owen going on and listing a ll the defeat and Matt going on an on about the Mendy and Ndidi.
We have fans Booing the substitution of a player who was being marked out the game and a had just taken a very poor free kick and then when Ghazzil name is read out booed again he look visibly upset and Stowell went a put a hand on his shoulder to say its alright.
Frankly who the Fuff do we think we are as fans, We had plenty of chances to score Vardy missed a sitter yet its all the foreign players that get it in the neck and i dont care if you think its not true Mendy gets played into trouble now by in games by Barne yesterday Mcguire and then fans try to blame the goal on him. He gets booked and takes one for the team yet again.
Then the blaming of lack of creativity also from Matt about those two. First we complain when we have three defensive Dm's now we have two to defend the the defense and allow the full backs to push up and engage with the three creative players in front ..... But when that does not happen boom its down to those two.
We lose at home because our players despite player better away now know the fans are waiting for the next mistake and to have a go a the Manager.
Those people calling for NP to put the band back together on social media sum it up living in the past.
Sorry i support the manager he is creating a young and dynamic team under the support of the owners and i know BS won't like but look how upset Wornock and Cardiff are they lost someone they known very briefly but felt the pain how do our club and all its staff feel even know after losing the boss, its got to have an impact and not TB that's not an excuse for Puel he does not need it he's supported the young player though this.
I'm sorry for the rant but i am furious i come off twitter because of the poisonous bile spread by the Puel out brigade.
We are suffering from Delusions of Granduer we have been a yoyo team and are only know beginning to get past that.get behind the team on the pitch and take a good look at yourself when you boo some one whos doing the best they can and see how you would feel if you where them.
Apart from one mistake yesterday was a good game and if we had taken our chances we would of won.
Toxic Toxic Toxic
posted on 8/2/19
comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 37 minutes ago
BS - you are calling out 3-4 of Wolves top players.
Are you saying that Maguire, Vardy, Kasper, Maddison, Chilwell, Ndidi wouldn’t get near the wolves team?
We’ve just brought in tielemans also.
I beleive we have a better squad (that’s all players together) than them.
Now you make a very valid point regarding having players suited to his style though. Either Puel still hasn’t managed that after 3 transfer windows or his style is cr@p. Personally I believe it’s the latter!
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I don’t think Kasper would get in no. He isn’t better than what they have. He’s good for us but hardly rated as one of the best keepers around. I absolutely don’t think N’didi would get in on current form - no way. Like i said - collectively they are a better side. I think they have better quality
Once you get past key 4 or 5 Leicester players the rest of the squad isn’t good enough for me. That’s either because of young players still developing, bang average players like Iheanacho and Gray and then over the hill title winners like Morgan and Simpson
I’ve never understood why Leicester fans think this team is so good. It will be in 2-3 years if we can keep everyone together
posted on 8/2/19
Kasper is officially one of the top 3 keepers in the world BS. Can’t argue with facts 😉
posted on 8/2/19
comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 40 minutes ago
BS - you are calling out 3-4 of Wolves top players.
Are you saying that Maguire, Vardy, Kasper, Maddison, Chilwell, Ndidi wouldn’t get near the wolves team?
We’ve just brought in tielemans also.
I beleive we have a better squad (that’s all players together) than them.
Now you make a very valid point regarding having players suited to his style though. Either Puel still hasn’t managed that after 3 transfer windows or his style is cr@p. Personally I believe it’s the latter!
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His style? I don’t think he send his players out with the instruction to pass the ball around slowly and with no intensity. He talks about wanting more intensity all the time. I think he wants far better quality in possession and I don’t think the club has supported him with the recruitment. Not until Tielemans anyway.
That’s the difference with Wolves: they have brought players to suit the managers style. Why should puel revert to a Craig Shakespeare style sit deep and then hoof it to Vardy? Makes more sense to work with the club on getting players to suit his philosophy: that’s what the club is doing
posted on 8/2/19
BS - you seem to beleive that all the players recruited during Puel’s reign have had nothing to do with him.
I totally disagree with this.
posted on 8/2/19
I think you are right Black Starr, Puel has this vision of how he wants a team to play. But I worry it is a generic vision he would employ at any club rather than a considered one to buIld on what is here at ‘this’ football club.
Admittedly, some of this is conjecture/gut feeling but just some of the odd decisions that he makes coupled by contradictions/inconsistencies to any long term plan have me worried. And genuinely worried as a fan - not ‘I hate Puel’, ‘no more foreign managers’ tosh but concern about my club.
I just would like a little more concern about the here and now with his approach and decisions on occassions (which as mentioned at times are just bizarre). A long term plan requires a medium and short term one behind it/as part of it.
posted on 8/2/19
comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 13 minutes ago
BS - you seem to beleive that all the players recruited during Puel’s reign have had nothing to do with him.
I totally disagree with this.
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When did I say that? What I said was that the manager doesn’t choose the players the club signs. That rarely happens at any premier league club these days. Do you think Iheanacho was Craig Shakespeares signing? He didn’t even want him.......
As tempting as it is to lay everything at Puels door - a look into how Leicester recruit players will tell you that Puel has a say, but certainly not the final decision. Also I’m puzzled by why you’ve brought this up Mersey. The players I’ve zoned in on as evidence of a lack of quality at the club (Gray, Iheanacho, Amartey,
Simpson, Morgan) weren’t even signed by Puel anyway.
posted on 8/2/19
comment by Keep_the_faith1 (U8129)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think you are right Black Starr, Puel has this vision of how he wants a team to play. But I worry it is a generic vision he would employ at any club rather than a considered one to buIld on what is here at ‘this’ football club.
Admittedly, some of this is conjecture/gut feeling but just some of the odd decisions that he makes coupled by contradictions/inconsistencies to any long term plan have me worried. And genuinely worried as a fan - not ‘I hate Puel’, ‘no more foreign managers’ tosh but concern about my club.
I just would like a little more concern about the here and now with his approach and decisions on occassions (which as mentioned at times are just bizarre). A long term plan requires a medium and short term one behind it/as part of it.
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This is an absolutely reasonable post and I agree with aspects of Puels judgement. I’m still not totally sold by him - but I’m in a very different place than 2 months ago when I wanted him gone, because I’ve done a lot of reading up and speaking to the puel in brigade.
I’ve started to understand that there have been fundamental recruitment mistakes undertaken mostly under Shakespeare (not his fault) which have hindered Puels remit at the club in terms of achieving short term success. Basically he inherited other peoples expensively assembled flops and an aging team who did something remarkable 3 years ago - but have underperformed ever since.
We have to remember what was going on before Puel arrived: that second season under Ranieri, the initial success under Shakespeare followed by a series of misfires. Players like Slimani, Musa, Zieler, Luis Hernandez, Adrien Silva, Iheanacho - all signed without a coherent plan on how they would be used or what our identity was.
That takes longer than 3 transfer windows to sort out, I don’t care who you are. This was a club that needed rebuilding from the ground up under a new identity - one of developing the best young talent in the country. A club that could provide England with future talent. That takes time. Time that people just won’t give Puel - because they want the success now.
Progress has been slower than it should have been, but we are seeing it. Maybe not in the swashbuckling Ranieri fashion of old, but Leicester are a club being talked about with dare I say it, a bit of excitement from some pundits who are seeing the development of Choudhury, Chilwell and Maddison among others.
posted on 8/2/19
I guess I’m arguing Ricardo is Puel’s man BS. I felt like you were suggesting it’s not Puel’s brief, or suggestions as to who we sign and it’s the Madrid model of “here’s a load of random good players, not make them a team”.
I personally think our transfer policy has been reasonable in the last 2-3 windows after we learned from our title following mistakes.
It’s not worked out because I think the manager’s tactics aren’t good enough. I guess that’s where imyou disagree with me. Which is fine. I lay more blame at Puel’s door than you do.
posted on 8/2/19
I think you are right that there are things to improve and challenges for Puel that to a certain extent he has inherited.
I have no grandeur in terms of thinking we are this team that should be competing consistently for the top 6 or that we have this great, proven premier league squad or even team.
But from what we do currently have, I never quite feel that he consistently picks the best team - both as a go to ‘plan a’ but even taking into account ‘rotating’ for particularly opponents.
This is what has me tearing my hair out - not that we aren’t higher up in the league, or that we don’t have world class players in every position, but that we aren’t even playing the best team from what we have most of the time and this surely has to be an absolute given for any plan of any duration.
I have this gut feeling that he is going to plough on no matter what happens towards this ideology and I worry we may potentially haemorrhage so much at a particular point that even if we let him go it won’t be enough to stop the bleeding. And even worse than this - I sometimes feel he isn’t even sticking to his guns with his plan and we are just drifting/will drift in this ‘doldrums’ state which neither reverts to building on foundations that we have (and to his credit - there are some things Puel has contributed to adding in theory but sometimes not in practice) nor gather enough impetus to push towards a completely new ethos - resulting in us being completely stranded equally as far away from either of these two metaphoric islands.
To balance this and just highlight a positive - something we needed was quicker full backs to balance that we looked to use our ‘wide’ players in a different way from actual wingers. I know neither Ricardo nor Chilwell are the finished article but both have improved a lot for me and really highlight how quick full backs could be a really useful asset for us moving forward long term - this is a credit to Puel that I don’t think would have necesarily evolved in the same way without him.
posted on 8/2/19
comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 38 seconds ago
I guess I’m arguing Ricardo is Puel’s man BS. I felt like you were suggesting it’s not Puel’s brief, or suggestions as to who we sign and it’s the Madrid model of “here’s a load of random good players, not make them a team”.
I personally think our transfer policy has been reasonable in the last 2-3 windows after we learned from our title following mistakes.
It’s not worked out because I think the manager’s tactics aren’t good enough. I guess that’s where imyou disagree with me. Which is fine. I lay more blame at Puel’s door than you do.
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You lay pretty much everything you can think of at Puels door! That’s up to you of course but if he goes at the end of the season I think you’ll be disappointed as you may start to see that there are other factors at play when it comes to success on the pitch. The manager is just one part of it and neither Puel, Ranieri nor Shakespeare have been able to instantly fix the problems post title success.
The recruitment model at Leicester is the same as at most modern clubs. The manager has an input but someone like Ricardo would likely have been known to our scouting network before Puel even got here. N’didi was being scouted when Pearson was here as an example despite being signed under Ranieris tenure