My mate is a Fulham season ticket holder and is godly enough to be getting me tickets for the game on Saturday so I can go back to the scene of Moyes’s best 30 min spell as a United manager 😂
Throughout the season he’s been feeding me info on how TFM’s spell has gone as I told him just how good this lad is and to expect quality as we saw how good he was at Palace last season.
To start with TFM was excellent and did very well and lived up to the hype. He was one of the few who was showing his quality whereas others in defence were awful. Then he got his shoulder injury and since then it’s been hell. He’s been very bad and my mate says he’s now lazy and has no interest in defending. Was shocking when he came on against Arsenal and let players get past him at will - a completely different player to what they had been led to believe they were getting.
Even worse, the Fulham fans have turned against him as apparently Fulham wanted to send him back to United or to another PL club as they needed another space for a crucial loan but he refused to leave. He came on against Palace the other day and was just as bad as he was before and fans are annoyed he’s getting chances at all to play as he’s very much not good enough right now. He’s close to the stage of being booed apparently.
Who’s fault is all of this? The player? The management? Gotta feel sorry for the guy as he’s quality but is in a bit of loan hell at the moment.
Fosu-Mensah - Loan hell
posted on 5/2/19
I didn't know he or any other player had a choice in refusing to end a loan... Thought if the club decides to terminate it then that was it.
posted on 5/2/19
I would have thought the player has some say. I beliebe Pereira was against coming back last season and so was left on loan at Valencia - it was his choice, against Mourinho’s wishes, to go on loan in the first place.
posted on 5/2/19
comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
posted 11 minutes ago
I would have thought the player has some say. I beliebe Pereira was against coming back last season and so was left on loan at Valencia - it was his choice, against Mourinho’s wishes, to go on loan in the first place.
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I meant more the loaning club, if they wanted rid they could terminate when they wanted .
Valencia didn't and in the absence of a recall clause then its down to the player.
I suppose its down to whatever way the loan contract is worded
posted on 5/2/19
Calum Chambers is having the season of his career on loan at Fulham.
They've somehow managed to turn him into a decent defensive mid, and he's become a nailed-on starter for them.
I really hope the suits at Arsenal don't plan on cashing in on him at the end of the season.
posted on 5/2/19
comment by Gillespie Road. (U18361)
posted 4 minutes ago
Calum Chambers is having the season of his career on loan at Fulham.
They've somehow managed to turn him into a decent defensive mid, and he's become a nailed-on starter for them.
I really hope the suits at Arsenal don't plan on cashing in on him at the end of the season.
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That’s also what my mate says. That he was one of their worst players in defence. And he had no faith in him. But now he’s storming it in CM. And is very impressed. He does wonder if Chambers could possibly go back into defence with that confidence he’s gotten and get Cairney back in the centre of midfield again but otherwise he’s very pleased with how chambers is doing
posted on 5/2/19
Shugs, yep must come down to the wording. If Fulham were that desperate to bring someone else in on loan they would have just terminated the loan if they could.
posted on 5/2/19
comment by Robb Ferguson (U21234)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Gillespie Road. (U18361)
posted 4 minutes ago
Calum Chambers is having the season of his career on loan at Fulham.
They've somehow managed to turn him into a decent defensive mid, and he's become a nailed-on starter for them.
I really hope the suits at Arsenal don't plan on cashing in on him at the end of the season.
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That’s also what my mate says. That he was one of their worst players in defence. And he had no faith in him. But now he’s storming it in CM. And is very impressed. He does wonder if Chambers could possibly go back into defence with that confidence he’s gotten and get Cairney back in the centre of midfield again but otherwise he’s very pleased with how chambers is doing
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Shows how a change of scenery plus a bit of confidence from the manager can bring out surprising qualities in a player.
He's even doing Cruyff turns and dribbling the ball past players in midfield.
posted on 5/2/19
Interesting that they don’t fancy Fosu-Mensah there but do Callum Chambers. There’s been so much talk from our fans over the years about him being ideal for a defensive midfield role yet nobody in professional football seems to have got the memo.
posted on 6/2/19
In both loans he started well, change of management happened and then the loan deal goes sour. I would think it might be prudent to give him a loan where he will get games and the team unlikely to change manager. Palace, I could understand. They changed manager and also had their own young player making waves there.
I think it would be good to integrate him into the squad next season or give him a loan to a German side. Some players aren't hits on loan, such as Kane, and it could do with a lot of factors. Claudio doesn't rate him and neither did Roy, so it's not like they'll spend time on him when they know he's going back.
posted on 6/2/19
Management at fault, for me.
A player needs to feel like there is some sort of plan for him and under Jose, what youth player would feel that way?
The only time I lose a little symapthy with younger players is when they continually sign contract extensions when they know they'll be farmed out on loan again - they'd be far better pursuing a career at a club more interested in their development.
Hopefully United have turned a corner in that regard and players no longer need to look elsewhere.