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Player wages

With the latest rumours about Aaron Ramseys wages there's another storm brewing regarding how out of hand player wages have got.

Salary caps have been mentioned but where would the extra money saved actually go? It would just go to already obscenely wealthy owners and shareholders who offer next to nothing to football so that's a far worse option.

Where do we go from there?

Well one left field option would to be cap how much clubs can charge for tickets and how much broadcasting companies can charge customers to watch the game. This would be the best option for me but obviously very tricky to implement and potentially not within current laws.

*Update - this a chart showing the growth in Premier League broadcasting rights: https://cdn.mpasho.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/wpid-chart-showing-the-growing-cost-of-broadcast-rights-for-english-premier-league-matches.jpg?x75745

Up from 300 million for 1992-97 to 6.9 billion for 2016-19
An increase of 3733.33% if my calcs are right (which is unlikely but it's a massive increase either way).

Currently you're looking at approx £50 plus to add Sky Sports and BT sport to your package per facking month. This isn't even to watch all the games, the cost of watching football for supporters in the UK is increasing every year.

IMO this is what should be capped massively. This won't cap wages but it will reduce club revenue and that instead will bring down wages. My issue with simply capping wages was that the money would still be in football, still collected from supporters by the tens of billions however if it doesn't go to players it would just make its way to already obscenely wealthy owners who do nothing for the game.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 12/2/19

comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 10 minutes ago

Good point Elvis.

Win for everyone. That would vastly simply the services internationally. A quality uniform product would be better for both ends.
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Sky currently have 23m sky sports subscribers across the globe. If they did the subscription at £10 per month that would be 2.7 billion per year. A lot more would subscribe at £10 per month, so I bet you could push that up to 4 billion, before you even think about other channels. Or 6 billion if they charged £15 per month.

There is a huge opportunity for the PL here - I'm amazed it hasn't already happened.

posted on 12/2/19

Pl leave players paid over 1bn in tax last year I think. No idea how anyone can complain about what someone else earns (not saying you are op) when they pay more tax than 90% of the country. Without these kinds of wages, Normal folk end up paying more tax

posted on 12/2/19

Currently you're looking at approx £50 plus to add Sky Sports and BT sport to your package per facking month.
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You don't *have* to pay this, people choose to.
It's basic supply and demand... all the while that you and I pay £50 for Sky/BT and £40 for a shirt, the TV deals will get bigger and wages will increase. Simples

posted on 12/2/19

comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 1 hour, 37 minutes ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Red the Fred (U5318)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 12 minutes ago
I think you’ve got to pretty much just ignore the money side of football now. It’s become obscene but the game is awash with money.

The surgeon that saves lives on a daily basis will get less money in a year than Ramsey will get in a week, but surgery isn’t a spectator sport, thankfully.
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Sounds like a show that would be a success. Sky Sports:scalple channel?

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Funnily enough, there's a live brain surgery being televised this week here
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I think I would’ve like to have seen that. My wife had a 13 hour op to remove a brain tumour the size of a hens egg. I’m in awe of the skill of these people
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Fair enough, that's a huge thing (literally and metaphorically!).
Watching the Op though would be grim viewing
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For part of my doctorate I once spent 19 hours on a Philippine jungle island removing the testicles and then isolating and labelling spermatogonia type A with a red-fluroescence marker from a 103 pound fish that had been suffering from testicular cancer.
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posted on 12/2/19

comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Red the Fred (U5318)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 12 minutes ago
I think you’ve got to pretty much just ignore the money side of football now. It’s become obscene but the game is awash with money.

The surgeon that saves lives on a daily basis will get less money in a year than Ramsey will get in a week, but surgery isn’t a spectator sport, thankfully.
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Sounds like a show that would be a success. Sky Sports:scalple channel?

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Funnily enough, there's a live brain surgery being televised this week here
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I think I would’ve like to have seen that. My wife had a 13 hour op to remove a brain tumour the size of a hens egg. I’m in awe of the skill of these people
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Hope she's doing okay.

You're right, there's some staggeringly skillful surgeons these days.

Robotics and automation are increasingly so helpful, but it's going to take a very long time, if ever, to replace the pure talent of some of the humans behind the scalpel blades.
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Yeah she’s all good thanks. Well, she’s mutton on one side but she uses that to her advantage with selective hearing now

I am truly in awe of what these guys can do.

posted on 12/2/19

comment by Gareth. (U1145)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 1 hour, 37 minutes ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Red the Fred (U5318)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 12 minutes ago
I think you’ve got to pretty much just ignore the money side of football now. It’s become obscene but the game is awash with money.

The surgeon that saves lives on a daily basis will get less money in a year than Ramsey will get in a week, but surgery isn’t a spectator sport, thankfully.
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Sounds like a show that would be a success. Sky Sports:scalple channel?

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Funnily enough, there's a live brain surgery being televised this week here
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think I would’ve like to have seen that. My wife had a 13 hour op to remove a brain tumour the size of a hens egg. I’m in awe of the skill of these people
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Fair enough, that's a huge thing (literally and metaphorically!).
Watching the Op though would be grim viewing
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For part of my doctorate I once spent 19 hours on a Philippine jungle island removing the testicles and then isolating and labelling spermatogonia type A with a red-fluroescence marker from a 103 pound fish that had been suffering from testicular cancer.
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As experiences go, that sounds like the dogfishses b*llocks.

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posted on 12/2/19

Nah, y'all don't want to do it a salary cap. It forces people to become mercenaries and the whole set up that's in place will be wrecked.

Just let teams be stupid now and the consequences will come later.

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