Hoorah - we've finally grown a pair!
I see her family are bringing legal action. Of course, they have no responsibility for their 15 year old daughter growing up to hate her host country.
Its a bit like the father of the 3 sons that have just died; 2 fighting for ISIS, one a drug dealer in Brighton. What on earth has this family contributed to UK? What have they given back to the country that invited them in and made sacrifices to integrate them into the country.
These people need to be made to realise that the money they are using up right now on legal aid or policing of their family needs to be taken from somewhere. The NHS is still underfunded. How much of this money could have gone towards a child's life support machine. 3,500 jobs are lost in Honda how much of this money could be used to help the communities of Swindon. Its a form of financial terrorism against the UK.
She's not comin home
posted on 20/2/19
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The motive for there crimes was sexual gratification.
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Why didn't they knock one out then? There is also a power and dominance element in this that is not looked at
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Do you think religion played a part?
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No I do not think it played a part as a good muslim/catholic wouldn't do this stuff.
I think it is more of a "cultural thing". Most of us growing up could play with girls and experiment. In these communities, that is frowned upon and not tolerated.
This contributes to it as well.
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I do think culture is the primary factor. I know it is the Daily Fail but ...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2739799/amp/Why-millions-Pakistani-children-falling-prey-vicious-paedophiles.html
And if religion isn't a part of it, why were most of the victims in the UK grooming gangs non Muslim?
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They do not have access to girls in their communities or they would have groomed them too.
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I'm not sure about that. Rape within families happens in Islamic countries. I don't see why the UK would be any different.
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It does, but access here is not as easy as they are tightly woven communities.
Try chatting up a brown girl near her home and the whole street will hear about it before noon
posted on 20/2/19
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Again, the "muslims" do not do it in the number that the "catholics" do.
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That is not what the statistics say.
And again, you seem to struggle with the word disproportionate.
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Are we talking about the UK alone? Pretty sure what happened in Pennsylvania tops every stat out there
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Well I was talking about the UK.
Does the Pennsylvania case top every stat out there? The police are investigating 426 suspects in the Rotherham scandal alone. That is about 10% of the adult male population in the town. 10%!
And this is happening in towns and cities all over the UK. The majority of these gangs are made up of Muslims. Some leaders within these communities are coming out and speaking up about how it can't be ignored any more. 500 Imams across the UK delivered the same speech in their mosques about children grooming in a bid to help tackle it. It is a very real problem, but most are too scared to talk about it.
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Too many to pretend it isn't a problem within these communities.
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It is not a problem specific to the communities. What about this do you not get?
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Of course it is. You choosing to bury your head in sand is a prime example of why it was allowed to go on for so long.
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So, no other communities have a problem with paedos and grooming gangs?
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In the uk? Yes, but the figures are hugely disproportionate in favour (or not) of Muslim communities. And the statistics show that most of these Muslims do not have a longer standing interest in children, but just take advantage of the children as they are vulnerable. Which means that there is a opportunity to educate within these communities and help prevent it happening in the future.
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Think we are violently agreeing with each other now.
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I'm not looking to blame Muslims. I don't give a feck what religion any pe ado is. But I do think that there is a real opportunity to reduce the number of children being abused within the uk through education within the Muslim community. It is a unique opportunity that isn't possible with the other peados that make up the numbers.
posted on 20/2/19
These are some articles about the Pennsylvania scandal. Over 1000 children abused so far (I expect the number to increase). Other investigations across 45 states are ongoing;
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/14/us/catholic-church-sex-abuse-pennsylvania.html
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/12/17/josh-shapiro-more-horrors-coming-catholic-clergy-abuse-scandal/2329159002/
posted on 20/2/19
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I work in a Muslim county before you ask why I speak to a wide variety of Muslim. And I have been treated with nothing but respect and dignity... well mostly.
But
An Indian Muslim told me there is no such thing as raping a wife.
An American Muslim told me that if a woman was wearing a bikini she was asking for it.
A Saudi Muslim told me he wanted to go to the UK to go to a party to f*CK English girls and wanted to take his friend as back up. Back up for what, I asked... nervous laughter from him
Another Saudi said it is unlikely for a man and a woman to be left alone without intercoorse happening. Consensual??
A Turkish Muslim asked why would he want to talk to a woman, unless it was for s*X.
An Indian laughed when I said in the UK if a woman is drunk, naked and passed out in the street, you are not allowed to have s*X with her. He couldn't understand why not.
Again, this isnt meant as Muslim bashing, but these are strange views. Even if people agree with any of the above, to blatantly air these views in public is questionable.
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Not surprised about the Indian as rape is a significant problem in india. Not surprised about the Saudi too or the American.
Cants, the lot of em
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The point is, they all have one thing in common. I don't know about you, but I have never heard anything like this in the UK.
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I have heard it in the US. It is not strange to me at all
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Too many to pretend it isn't a problem within these communities.
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It is not a problem specific to the communities. What about this do you not get?
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Of course it is. You choosing to bury your head in sand is a prime example of why it was allowed to go on for so long.
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So, no other communities have a problem with paedos and grooming gangs?
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In the uk? Yes, but the figures are hugely disproportionate in favour (or not) of Muslim communities. And the statistics show that most of these Muslims do not have a longer standing interest in children, but just take advantage of the children as they are vulnerable. Which means that there is a opportunity to educate within these communities and help prevent it happening in the future.
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Think we are violently agreeing with each other now.
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I'm not looking to blame Muslims. I don't give a feck what religion any pe ado is. But I do think that there is a real opportunity to reduce the number of children being abused within the uk through education within the Muslim community. It is a unique opportunity that isn't possible with the other peados that make up the numbers.
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posted on 20/2/19
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These are some articles about the Pennsylvania scandal. Over 1000 children abused so far (I expect the number to increase). Other investigations across 45 states are ongoing;
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/14/us/catholic-church-sex-abuse-pennsylvania.html
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/12/17/josh-shapiro-more-horrors-coming-catholic-clergy-abuse-scandal/2329159002/
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Got to go, but will have a look later.
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These are some articles about the Pennsylvania scandal. Over 1000 children abused so far (I expect the number to increase). Other investigations across 45 states are ongoing;
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/14/us/catholic-church-sex-abuse-pennsylvania.html
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/12/17/josh-shapiro-more-horrors-coming-catholic-clergy-abuse-scandal/2329159002/
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Got to go, but will have a look later.
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Yup. Heading home too.
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