Huawei

The political arguments have little to do with security and everything to do with money.

Telecoms and data connectivity will become the globe's biggest and most profitable industry within 10-15 years.

Huawei's revenue is growing at a mind boggling rate, and within the next five years it'll be the world's largest telecom equipment maker, telephone-network equipment maker, mobile softswitch manufacturer, mobile broadband provider, optical hardware provider, IP DSLAM provider, and mobile network equipment provider.

They are filing more patents every year than any other company in the world, are recognised by industry experts as being 12 to 18 months ahead of their rivals in most of the subsectors they are active in, and are the world's leading 5G technologists.

The Yanks are petrified of their corporate clout, and the impact of their dominance in the market on their own global brands, that's all.

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The Yanks are petrified of their corporate clout, and the impact of their dominance in the market on their own global brands, that's all.

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They are worried on a lot more than that when it comes to China.

There is cause to be wary of Huawei. The law in China forces them to share information, so from a security point of view it makes sense. Though the US have a similar law and Cisco has had their reputation tarnished due to activity that the US accuses China of.

While Huawei claim to be independent, they are supported by the government. No company in China that fall under education and technology can become as large as they have without government support.

Car manufacturers and technology companies that want access to the Chinese Market have to share their technology with a local company. Basically be in partnership. This gives foreign tech and manufactures a disadvantage. R and D that takes time to develop has to then be shared. Huawei has benefited from this. It's one of many western nations gripes with China, especially the US.

The US themselves have a right to be paranoid as they have had many cyber attacks from China and it would be naive to believe China won't us Huawei.

I've had used Huawei phones here. The new ones are good but the UI is carp. I always end up getting my own launcher onto them.

The problem with Chinese phones is that they have been caught sending data back to China (Blu used rebranded Vivo phones a few years ago, but my memory is sketchy on the details). That's why many politicians aren't allowed to use them. I think it's the same for MPs in the UK.

EU based companies should seek to use EU companies as this area could potentially be very vital security wise and neither US nor China can be trusted. Cloud based services for example, even if the servers are based elsewhere, US laws force US based companies to hand over those data. France has been urging companies to switch over to European ones and is at the forefront on this against the US. Doesn't make mush headlines as US are allies.

comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 21 minutes ago
There is cause to be wary of Huawei. The law in China forces them to share information, so from a security point of view it makes sense. Though the US have a similar law and Cisco has had their reputation tarnished due to activity that the US accuses China of.

While Huawei claim to be independent, they are supported by the government. No company in China that fall under education and technology can become as large as they have without government support.

Car manufacturers and technology companies that want access to the Chinese Market have to share their technology with a local company. Basically be in partnership. This gives foreign tech and manufactures a disadvantage. R and D that takes time to develop has to then be shared. Huawei has benefited from this. It's one of many western nations gripes with China, especially the US.

The US themselves have a right to be paranoid as they have had many cyber attacks from China and it would be naive to believe China won't us Huawei.

I've had used Huawei phones here. The new ones are good but the UI is carp. I always end up getting my own launcher onto them.

The problem with Chinese phones is that they have been caught sending data back to China (Blu used rebranded Vivo phones a few years ago, but my memory is sketchy on the details). That's why many politicians aren't allowed to use them. I think it's the same for MPs in the UK.

EU based companies should seek to use EU companies as this area could potentially be very vital security wise and neither US nor China can be trusted. Cloud based services for example, even if the servers are based elsewhere, US laws force US based companies to hand over those data. France has been urging companies to switch over to European ones and is at the forefront on this against the US. Doesn't make mush headlines as US are allies.
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then dont use any google or amazon products

Google are pretty much open to what they do. So are Facebook. Amazon on the other hand...

As a personal user, like many others here, we've already sold a lot of our personal data without knowing it.

At state and business level, you want to protect data as much as possible.

I don't know why what I said offended you so much. Maybe take a lie down and calm down.

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comment by rosso is facking happy (U17054)
posted on 8/4/19
The political arguments have little to do with security and everything to do with money.
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Well surprise, surprise.

Having sent his minions around the world threatening any of America's "allies" that might have been considering allowing Huawei to operate in their markets, Trump has now said that it is possible that the company could be part of any new trade agreement with Beijing.

"If we made a deal, I could imagine Huawei being possibly included in some form or some part of it," he has said.

Absolutely facking disgraceful behaviour from the US administration. That we are offering this filthy weasel a state visit is shameful.

FFS Rosoo.

I could upgrade my phone now and wanted the P30, but have held off as I am worried that actions could be taken against the company. I thought that I had been proven right last week when it was announced that Google would stop updates. Now I am town again. Think I will just stick with the S10.