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It's all opinions, so here's mine

Not fit enough, not good enough, not together enough.
The first one is easy to solve, and by the start of next season I hope that one is sorted.
The next two are related, yes we have two or three players not good enough, and are also two or three short in certain positions.
But also, we are not a team, we don't play for each other, we don't show for the ball, we don't back each other up as we should.
That's less easy to sort.
It's been said the league is rubbish, I don't agree, the top two are exceptional, but Watford, Wolves and Everton have made good appointments that are starting to pay off, Southampton may join them. Burnley and Bournmouth managers are no mugs.
So, is Ole good enough, we don't know, not his backers, not Robb, none of us, because he hasn't got a magic wand. It will take hard work, intelligence, a couple of really good buys, not eighteen games with somebody else's team. He has to be given time, money and help.
We need to blueprint where we want to finish in playing style and the way we get results, and plan how to get there.
I may give my half baked opinions on players tomorrow or the day after (grand-daughters) but do feel that's what we need.
And yes, I would play two or three from the youth set up, if nothing else they are going to try.

posted on 21/4/19

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 34 minutes ago
The manager didn't, the team did. Fans always talk about managers as if they were playing. We got beat 6 -1 by City at home under Fergie. Managers can only do so much, especially as we keep pointing out after such a short time with no one player of his own.
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Managers can only do so much, that is true.

But two games in a row he has made absolutely disastrous tactical decisions before a ball has been kicked.

If he learns from those, then that's fine. I won't be judging him for another fourteen months, at least.

But he and his team haven't been nearly up to scratch in recent weeks.

posted on 21/4/19

comment by rosso is facking happy (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 34 minutes ago
The manager didn't, the team did. Fans always talk about managers as if they were playing. We got beat 6 -1 by City at home under Fergie. Managers can only do so much, especially as we keep pointing out after such a short time with no one player of his own.
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Managers can only do so much, that is true.

But two games in a row he has made absolutely disastrous tactical decisions before a ball has been kicked.

If he learns from those, then that's fine. I won't be judging him for another fourteen months, at least.

But he and his team haven't been nearly up to scratch in recent weeks.
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He and his coaching staff have continuously made tactical adjustments from game to game since he joined and it worked out right up till the first 30mins of the 2nd leg against PSG when we were a shambles... We dodged a bullet that day...

The consequence of all this is that we've not been able to develop a defined way of playing over the last few months and we're dealing with the consequences... Also why our home form suck... That and the shiite players...

posted on 22/4/19

I’m starting to wonder if Ole has started the process of moving players on and there is disruption at United.

If that’s the case then bring it on, get the overpaid primadonas out of our club.

comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 22/4/19

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 57 minutes ago
I’m starting to wonder if Ole has started the process of moving players on and there is disruption at United.

If that’s the case then bring it on, get the overpaid primadonas out of our club.
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Good point, makes sense

comment by Prem (U7618)

posted on 22/4/19

For on the field matters, this is it in a nutshell OP

Too many passengers in our squad that we’ve been carrying. Time to stop the train and let some hindrance players off.

posted on 22/4/19

I've been saying for months that the effort levels are completely unacceptable. There were people here who, even watching our players stroll through games, wouldn't accept that that was the case. Maybe now the manager himself has called the lazy bass terds out, they'll see that I was right.

If we could make half a dozen changes or more in the summer, I would fully support that.

posted on 22/4/19

Excellent article, Ole needs time and money. I believe he will get both.

I had a list of 11 odd players that need to leave. May add to it

posted on 22/4/19

Thing is, as we’ve seen at Chelsea, player power is what always wins out

Can Ole (or anyone) win when up against the likes of Pogba and co?

I’d love to think he can but is what is so rotten at the club unfixable in the short term and does the club have the patience to forego short term success (and I don’t mean titles, to them I think short term success is top 4 finishes and CL money) to allow a whole new group of players to come through organically rather than just short term buys.

I myself want Bale to sign - IF the club need that short term fix but if the club don’t then if Ole is told he won’t be sacked no matter what then I’d like to see Pogba and the rest of the primadonnas gone and would be more than happy to see us in 7th/8th for a couple of seasons while a rebuild happens

Whether Ed and the owners care is another matter

posted on 22/4/19

comment by merrysupersteve - Jose'd he wouldn't be our Special One? (U1132)
posted 5 minutes ago
I've been saying for months that the effort levels are completely unacceptable. There were people here who, even watching our players stroll through games, wouldn't accept that that was the case. Maybe now the manager himself has called the lazy bass terds out, they'll see that I was right.

If we could make half a dozen changes or more in the summer, I would fully support that.
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Half a dozen odd changes, get rid of 11 odd players and promote from the touthe team.

Aim for a top 6 finish and strengthen a bit more the second season

posted on 22/4/19

Your club reminds me now of our club in the neighties.
Buying players with no plan behind it.

When Jurgen came most of our players were not good enough. He has changed almost the whole first 11 in the last 3 years.

Ole can't do that in one window but what I heard from him yesterday is he wants hardworking players and less social media, show boating players.

What you had under Fergie were players who put a shift in combined with the talent.

Why sign a player like Sanchez when he is 30. Lukaku is not a modern type striker with a good first touch. Martial doesnt work hard enough. Pogba will work with the right midfield but not this one.

Ed Woodward is not a football guy and has no clue.

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