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lingard needs to go

he ruins every attack by coming short and passing it backwards. he thinks he is david silva but he is not.


who agrees.

posted 3 days, 6 hours ago

comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 25 minutes ago
manc only looks at stats though.

he forgets the likes of Park was integral at times for Fergie because he was happy to do the jobs asked of him, and you can bet your life his ever so important "stats" were worse than lingards
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Clearly you haven't read my comments have you? In fact did you even read my last comment? Utterly stupid post by yourself lad
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oh i read your comment.... when did you ever walk away from a utd game and say park had a stormer?

he was there to do a an ugly job, one that is never really appreciated, similar to what lingard is asked to do.

posted 3 days, 5 hours ago

comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 25 minutes ago
manc only looks at stats though.

he forgets the likes of Park was integral at times for Fergie because he was happy to do the jobs asked of him, and you can bet your life his ever so important "stats" were worse than lingards
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Clearly you haven't read my comments have you? In fact did you even read my last comment? Utterly stupid post by yourself lad
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oh i read your comment.... when did you ever walk away from a utd game and say park had a stormer?

he was there to do a an ugly job, one that is never really appreciated, similar to what lingard is asked to do.
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city don't have players like park. those days are over. football has changed, stop thinking about what saf did ten years ago.

posted 3 days, 5 hours ago

comment by it was hippo the whole time! it was a trick! - formerly definitely not hippo. (U1301)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 25 minutes ago
manc only looks at stats though.

he forgets the likes of Park was integral at times for Fergie because he was happy to do the jobs asked of him, and you can bet your life his ever so important "stats" were worse than lingards
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Clearly you haven't read my comments have you? In fact did you even read my last comment? Utterly stupid post by yourself lad
----------------------------------------------------------------------
oh i read your comment.... when did you ever walk away from a utd game and say park had a stormer?

he was there to do a an ugly job, one that is never really appreciated, similar to what lingard is asked to do.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
city don't have players like park. those days are over. football has changed, stop thinking about what saf did ten years ago.
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Liverpool and Spurs have such players. As do Bayern and Juve.

posted 3 days, 3 hours ago

comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 2 hours, 23 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 25 minutes ago
manc only looks at stats though.

he forgets the likes of Park was integral at times for Fergie because he was happy to do the jobs asked of him, and you can bet your life his ever so important "stats" were worse than lingards
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Clearly you haven't read my comments have you? In fact did you even read my last comment? Utterly stupid post by yourself lad
----------------------------------------------------------------------
oh i read your comment.... when did you ever walk away from a utd game and say park had a stormer?

he was there to do a an ugly job, one that is never really appreciated, similar to what lingard is asked to do.
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Plenty of times....CL semi final against Arsenal. CL qf against both Chelsea and Milan in both legs. Scoring two including a last min winner against Wolves in an important game. 2010 against scousers at home...Park was far better for us than Lingard has ever been bar maybe a decent 2 month spell 2 yrs ago. Plus why are you comparing a player from 10 yrs ago who performed for us with a player who is in his peak been at United 5 yrs and done very little

posted 3 days, 3 hours ago

comment by rosso is facking happy (U17054)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by it was hippo the whole time! it was a trick! - formerly definitely not hippo. (U1301)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 25 minutes ago
manc only looks at stats though.

he forgets the likes of Park was integral at times for Fergie because he was happy to do the jobs asked of him, and you can bet your life his ever so important "stats" were worse than lingards
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Clearly you haven't read my comments have you? In fact did you even read my last comment? Utterly stupid post by yourself lad
----------------------------------------------------------------------
oh i read your comment.... when did you ever walk away from a utd game and say park had a stormer?

he was there to do a an ugly job, one that is never really appreciated, similar to what lingard is asked to do.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
city don't have players like park. those days are over. football has changed, stop thinking about what saf did ten years ago.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Liverpool and Spurs have such players. As do Bayern and Juve.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bayern sure as hell don't.

Spursfinished fourth, they are hardly anything to aim for.

Liverpool? Maybe Milner, but he set a record for cl assists last year, so he is obviously better than we thought.

having players like park, anderson and o'shea instead of top class alternatives is what stopped us from really challenging barcelona for european domination.

for the pl it was ok back in the day, but city have taken it to another level.

posted 3 days, 3 hours ago

comment by it was hippo the whole time! it was a trick! - formerly definitely not hippo. (U1301)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by it was hippo the whole time! it was a trick! - formerly definitely not hippo. (U1301)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 25 minutes ago
manc only looks at stats though.

he forgets the likes of Park was integral at times for Fergie because he was happy to do the jobs asked of him, and you can bet your life his ever so important "stats" were worse than lingards
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Clearly you haven't read my comments have you? In fact did you even read my last comment? Utterly stupid post by yourself lad
----------------------------------------------------------------------
oh i read your comment.... when did you ever walk away from a utd game and say park had a stormer?

he was there to do a an ugly job, one that is never really appreciated, similar to what lingard is asked to do.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
city don't have players like park. those days are over. football has changed, stop thinking about what saf did ten years ago.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Liverpool and Spurs have such players. As do Bayern and Juve.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bayern sure as hell don't.

Spursfinished fourth, they are hardly anything to aim for.

Liverpool? Maybe Milner, but he set a record for cl assists last year, so he is obviously better than we thought.

having players like park, anderson and o'shea instead of top class alternatives is what stopped us from really challenging barcelona for european domination.

for the pl it was ok back in the day, but city have taken it to another level.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bayern sure as hell do.

Both Coman and Muller have been used this season in deep, defensive inside forward roles, engaged in tracking - even man marking, pressing midfield distributors, and disruption between the lines without the ball, and drawing space, pulling defences out of shape, and linking play with the ball.

Liverpool have used players to perform the same kind of role in big games. Firmino, albeit from a different starting position, has done it; as have Lallana and Ox in similar ways to Muller, in particular.

If you think that having players like Park, Fletcher, Brown, Butt and O'Shea in the squad was a hindrance to our domestic domination or European campaigns, you've listened to absolutely nothing that Fergie ever said.

posted 3 days, 3 hours ago

comment by rosso is facking happy (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by it was hippo the whole time! it was a trick! - formerly definitely not hippo. (U1301)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by it was hippo the whole time! it was a trick! - formerly definitely not hippo. (U1301)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Nostraduncus (U11713)
posted 25 minutes ago
manc only looks at stats though.

he forgets the likes of Park was integral at times for Fergie because he was happy to do the jobs asked of him, and you can bet your life his ever so important "stats" were worse than lingards
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Clearly you haven't read my comments have you? In fact did you even read my last comment? Utterly stupid post by yourself lad
----------------------------------------------------------------------
oh i read your comment.... when did you ever walk away from a utd game and say park had a stormer?

he was there to do a an ugly job, one that is never really appreciated, similar to what lingard is asked to do.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
city don't have players like park. those days are over. football has changed, stop thinking about what saf did ten years ago.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Liverpool and Spurs have such players. As do Bayern and Juve.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bayern sure as hell don't.

Spursfinished fourth, they are hardly anything to aim for.

Liverpool? Maybe Milner, but he set a record for cl assists last year, so he is obviously better than we thought.

having players like park, anderson and o'shea instead of top class alternatives is what stopped us from really challenging barcelona for european domination.

for the pl it was ok back in the day, but city have taken it to another level.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bayern sure as hell do.

Both Coman and Muller have been used this season in deep, defensive inside forward roles, engaged in tracking - even man marking, pressing midfield distributors, and disruption between the lines without the ball, and drawing space, pulling defences out of shape, and linking play with the ball.

Liverpool have used players to perform the same kind of role in big games. Firmino, albeit from a different starting position, has done it; as have Lallana and Ox in similar ways to Muller, in particular.

If you think that having players like Park, Fletcher, Brown, Butt and O'Shea in the squad was a hindrance to our domestic domination or European campaigns, you've listened to absolutely nothing that Fergie ever said.
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Muller, Firmino, Coman are all far better players than Lingard. They nay employ similar roles and they also produce where it matters

posted 3 days, 3 hours ago

Both Coman and Muller have been used this season in deep, defensive inside forward roles, engaged in tracking - even man marking, pressing midfield distributors, and disruption between the lines without the ball, and drawing space, pulling defences out of shape, and linking play with the ball.

Liverpool have used players to perform the same kind of role in big games. Firmino, albeit from a different starting position, has done it; as have Lallana and Ox in similar ways to Muller, in particular.
................
all those players you mentioned are better than anyone in our squad. it's not about which role they play, it's about how good they are.


If you think that having players like Park, Fletcher, Brown, Butt and O'Shea in the squad was a hindrance to our domestic domination or European campaigns, you've listened to absolutely nothing that Fergie ever said.
........................
yeah well saf thought he could dominate in europe with those players but he clearly couldn't. read keane's autobiography. he was astonished that we did not buy big after the treble and he was right.

posted 3 days, 2 hours ago

comment by it was hippo the whole time! it was a trick! - formerly definitely not hippo. (U1301)
posted 31 minutes ago
Both Coman and Muller have been used this season in deep, defensive inside forward roles, engaged in tracking - even man marking, pressing midfield distributors, and disruption between the lines without the ball, and drawing space, pulling defences out of shape, and linking play with the ball.

Liverpool have used players to perform the same kind of role in big games. Firmino, albeit from a different starting position, has done it; as have Lallana and Ox in similar ways to Muller, in particular.
................
all those players you mentioned are better than anyone in our squad. it's not about which role they play, it's about how good they are.


If you think that having players like Park, Fletcher, Brown, Butt and O'Shea in the squad was a hindrance to our domestic domination or European campaigns, you've listened to absolutely nothing that Fergie ever said.
........................
yeah well saf thought he could dominate in europe with those players but he clearly couldn't. read keane's autobiography. he was astonished that we did not buy big after the treble and he was right.
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Firmino, Coman, Muller, Lallana and Ox are all better than anyone in our squad? Right.

And SAF got to four Champions League finals with many of those players. He was beaten twice by one of the best teams in the entire history of club football.

Incredibly, the level of bollox you talk actually continues to increase.

posted 3 days, 2 hours ago

Firmino, Coman, Muller, Lallana and Ox are all better than anyone in our squad? Right.
..............
ok i will give you lallana (does he even still play for liverpool?) but the rest are all top draw who have done it on the biggest cl nights. to compare them to lingard is a joke, especially firmino. Literally the best player in the bundesliga who has improved even more under Klopp. He's destroyed europe two years in a row and you think lingard is compareable

And SAF got to four Champions League finals with many of those players. He was beaten twice by one of the best teams in the entire history of club football.
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yes he was beaten because he played anderson, an ancient giggs and park in midfield. if he had signed some good players like sneijder, we could have won those games. that is exactly my point, thanks for making it for me once more.

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