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Javid gone, is that really a surprise?

Or is the surprise that he has even made it to this far?

Taking a break from the boring transfer news - well it is boring for Spurs

All the brexiteers sticking to Boris and voting him in, like a glue, the man who lied to them about the £320m sent to Europe every week and they are STILL voting for him.
In -breeding is rife I guess so if one votes for BJ then they all do by virtue of inherited traits

Disgusting that the two backstabbers Boris and Gove are the favourites after lying through their back teeth

Lies and damn lies.

Multi-boards please admin

posted on 21/6/19

comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)

posted 10 minutes ago

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy
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You mean the same old garbage is regurgitated but under a new shiny coat?

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Yes but also one side of the argument is only ever presented by either side. For example the vast majority of people of I know (both sexes) think that the burqa oppresses women and say fair play to those in the public eye who call it out.

I haven't heard much from that side of the argument recently.
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This is Great Britain. We do not tell people what they can and cannot wear.
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No we let oppressed womens husbands do that.

Coecive behaviour within a relationship is now a crime.
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We can't even let women in bruka's speak for themselves. We decide for them that it's oppressive and we decide that their husband must be like that as they wear the burka.
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Really how others dress or what they believe in is nobody's business but the person themselves

But with Burka which has a veil on it, as with a balaclava, if you can't see the face of a person, visually the most identifying part of that person, then as a security operative, I should have the right to ask the person to take down their veil so an identification could be made?

posted on 21/6/19

comment by PawlBawron (U1055)

posted 4 minutes ago

comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)

posted 10 minutes ago

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy
=============================

You mean the same old garbage is regurgitated but under a new shiny coat?

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes but also one side of the argument is only ever presented by either side. For example the vast majority of people of I know (both sexes) think that the burqa oppresses women and say fair play to those in the public eye who call it out.

I haven't heard much from that side of the argument recently.
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This is Great Britain. We do not tell people what they can and cannot wear.
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No we let oppressed womens husbands do that.

Coecive behaviour within a relationship is now a crime.
----------
We can't even let women in bruka's speak for themselves. We decide for them that it's oppressive and we decide that their husband must be like that as they wear the burka.
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Again missing the point so badly, they can't speak for themselves.

Why do you defend bullying?
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I didn't miss the point.

Who says they can't speak for themselves when there have been those who HAVE spoken for themselves?

How is letting the woman decide to wear it or not defending bullying?

Are you saying that only women forced to wear it should be defended but women forced not to should be ignored?


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comment by morespurs (U15748)

posted 2 minutes ago

Really how others dress or what they believe in is nobody's business but the person themselves

But with Burka which has a veil on it, as with a balaclava, if you can't see the face of a person, visually the most identifying part of that person, then as a security operative, I should have the right to ask the person to take down their veil so an identification could be made?
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There ARE exceptions such as security (such as the example you stated) and medical reasons. I don't think I'm arguing against that. I doubt most are.

posted on 21/6/19

comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)

posted 4 minutes ago

comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)

posted 10 minutes ago

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy
=============================

You mean the same old garbage is regurgitated but under a new shiny coat?

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes but also one side of the argument is only ever presented by either side. For example the vast majority of people of I know (both sexes) think that the burqa oppresses women and say fair play to those in the public eye who call it out.

I haven't heard much from that side of the argument recently.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is Great Britain. We do not tell people what they can and cannot wear.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No we let oppressed womens husbands do that.

Coecive behaviour within a relationship is now a crime.
----------
We can't even let women in bruka's speak for themselves. We decide for them that it's oppressive and we decide that their husband must be like that as they wear the burka.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Again missing the point so badly, they can't speak for themselves.

Why do you defend bullying?
----
I didn't miss the point.

Who says they can't speak for themselves when there have been those who HAVE spoken for themselves?

How is letting the woman decide to wear it or not defending bullying?

Are you saying that only women forced to wear it should be defended but women forced not to should be ignored?


==============
comment by morespurs (U15748)

posted 2 minutes ago

Really how others dress or what they believe in is nobody's business but the person themselves

But with Burka which has a veil on it, as with a balaclava, if you can't see the face of a person, visually the most identifying part of that person, then as a security operative, I should have the right to ask the person to take down their veil so an identification could be made?
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There ARE exceptions such as security (such as the example you stated) and medical reasons. I don't think I'm arguing against that. I doubt most are.
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Typical, men complain when women hide their body parts but no man even complained about the mini-skirt?
Are we born hypocrites?

posted on 21/6/19

comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)

posted 4 minutes ago

comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)

posted 10 minutes ago

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 4 minutes ago
I'm afraid politics is a very repetitive business Sandy
=============================

You mean the same old garbage is regurgitated but under a new shiny coat?

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes but also one side of the argument is only ever presented by either side. For example the vast majority of people of I know (both sexes) think that the burqa oppresses women and say fair play to those in the public eye who call it out.

I haven't heard much from that side of the argument recently.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is Great Britain. We do not tell people what they can and cannot wear.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No we let oppressed womens husbands do that.

Coecive behaviour within a relationship is now a crime.
----------
We can't even let women in bruka's speak for themselves. We decide for them that it's oppressive and we decide that their husband must be like that as they wear the burka.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Again missing the point so badly, they can't speak for themselves.

Why do you defend bullying?
----
I didn't miss the point.

Who says they can't speak for themselves when there have been those who HAVE spoken for themselves?

How is letting the woman decide to wear it or not defending bullying?

Are you saying that only women forced to wear it should be defended but women forced not to should be ignored?


==============
comment by morespurs (U15748)

posted 2 minutes ago

Really how others dress or what they believe in is nobody's business but the person themselves

But with Burka which has a veil on it, as with a balaclava, if you can't see the face of a person, visually the most identifying part of that person, then as a security operative, I should have the right to ask the person to take down their veil so an identification could be made?
-------------
There ARE exceptions such as security (such as the example you stated) and medical reasons. I don't think I'm arguing against that. I doubt most are.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Typical, men complain when women hide their body parts but no man even complained about the mini-skirt?
Are we born hypocrites?
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No, some men just think it’s ok to control women. That’s what it’s really about.

posted on 21/6/19

There are instances where that is the case and there are instances where that isn't.

I can understand when people are against what Iran and Saudi do. I can understand when people against what certain European nations have done (in the opposite manner). In both cases those are taking away the rights of women to choose how they dress. In one instance you could say its men and power. The other is to do with race and power.

You can't say you support women's choice in one instance and take it away in another. You would be a hypocrite.

posted on 21/6/19

This just in....And folks, it's a CONservative MP

A by-election will be held in Brecon and Radnorshire after 10,005 people signed a petition to remove the constituency's Conservative MP, Chris Davies.

From https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-48720176

CONservative living up to the name

Boris would be proud.

posted on 21/6/19

Never trust a Tory.

Self-servatives.

posted on 21/6/19

comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 21 hours, 41 minutes ago
“Boris Johnson is the ultimate proof that Britain is depressingly far from a meritocracy. His is the ultimate proof that, even if you are incompetent, dishonest and morally vacuous, the highest post in the land can be yours as long as you come from the right class”.

Read that the other day and wholeheartedly agree. I despise the man.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWIUp19bBoA

posted on 21/6/19

If you look at the accusations labelled at Corbyn, like anitsemitism, and compare that with thieving and fraud, by the conservative party, there is definite media bias to make it sound like Corbyn should be hanged beacuse he is a bad man!
Whereas the opposition get away with being incompetent, frauds and the like.

It's ok to be Richard Turpin these days?

posted on 21/6/19

What makes me sick is the fact a party can elect a prime minister without people's vote, just because we have the "party gets elected and not individual" policy?

I think the people should decided who should run as a PM?

In current situation which is farcical to say the least, the people can do nothing while a bumbling fool gets to run the country?

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