£70m bid for Maguire - Bid rejected

comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago

Maguire is good in the air and can stay fit, that’s the only value he really brings above our other cb’s. That does not make it a worthwhile signing, however, as his flaws outweigh his strengths. It would be a terrible signing.
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He is a leader too I'd say. Still not convinced and especially at £70m +.

Crikey that's a lot of money. Maguire is certainly a good player though.

comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
posted 23 minutes ago
Maguire is good in the air and can stay fit, that’s the only value he really brings above our other cb’s. That does not make it a worthwhile signing, however, as his flaws outweigh his strengths. It would be a terrible signing.
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Out of interest, who would you like to bring in?

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago

Maguire is good in the air and can stay fit, that’s the only value he really brings above our other cb’s. That does not make it a worthwhile signing, however, as his flaws outweigh his strengths. It would be a terrible signing.
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He is a leader too I'd say. Still not convinced and especially at £70m +.
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I think his leadership qualities are a big attraction at this time, as defensively we don't have any at all

That and the fact he is PL experienced means he should hit the ground running which is something ole needs

I have to say he's looked the part the few times I've seen him for Leicester and England and would likely improve on our current cb options. Will he be a 70 mill + improvement ? The consensus of opinion is no amongst the knowledgeable utd posters.

Doesn't look like we are linked with anyone else at this time. Should ole bring maybe tuanzebe back and work with what he has for now ?

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 34 minutes ago
Florida Fox, I guess where I'm coming from is that I've often seen fans swearing blindly that defender X was solely to blame for a goal and other fans of the same team putting the whole blame on defender Y. On the other hand, people compiling stats probably have to use a slightly more objective standard. E.g. something like an unforced error that directly led to a shooting chance. If we have wider criteria, then even the best defenders will make little positioning errors or failure to cut out a danger in time many more times a season than the numbers either of us are talking about. They'll probably be punished for them less often the better the team they play for.
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Fair points there and as fans we are our own worst critics of our team and players. I just think he is too slow and the fact he take the ball from the back is not what I want from a true CB.

I want your body on the line blocking shots and not giving away pennos.

I’m not really sure, RR. Cb is a dIffict market, as we’ve found the last few years. But I just don’t rate Maguire, I’d rather stick with what we have and give Tuanzebe a chance rather than waste a king’s ransom on a defender no bette than what we have.

Improving the midfield and bringing in a right back would go a long way to improving our goals against record.

You need a defender with pace with the modern tactics which are to push your fullbacks further forward. The quick cb can help out defensively when the fullback get caught out of position.

CB position is more about intercepts, headers and reading of the game in a back four which plays very deep. The top european clubs want a defender who can play in a high line and have the recovery pace.

comment by Roys Keane (U11635)

posted 4 hours, 34 minutes ago

comment by Elvis (U7425) 
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago

Maguire is good in the air and can stay fit, that’s the only value he really brings above our other cb’s. That does not make it a worthwhile signing, however, as his flaws outweigh his strengths. It would be a terrible signing.
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He is a leader too I'd say. Still not convinced and especially at £70m +.
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I think his leadership qualities are a big attraction at this time, as defensively we don't have any at all

That and the fact he is PL experienced means he should hit the ground running which is something ole needs

I have to say he's looked the part the few times I've seen him for Leicester and England and would likely improve on our current cb options. Will he be a 70 mill + improvement ? The consensus of opinion is no amongst the knowledgeable utd posters.

Doesn't look like we are linked with anyone else at this time. Should ole bring maybe tuanzebe back and work with what he has for now ?
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I said the same myself earlier. Really rate Tuanzebe from what I've seen. But maybe we need a leader more right now.

We also need quality at the back, Maguire doesn’t have it.

comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
We also need quality at the back, Maguire doesn’t have it.
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90 million offered