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Midfield 2 or 3

It sounds like Lampard mostly played a 4-2-3-1 at Derby, which made me wonder whether our midfield 3 will actually be a midfield 2 with 3 more attacking players ahead of them. In other words, the two defensive players coming from Kante plus one of Kovacic, Drinkwater, Jorginho, Bakayoko. Which is 5 players for 2 positions - so Lampard would presumably allow one of those players to go (presumably Bakayoko).

Ahead of them would therefore be 3 attacking midfield positions, to be filled from Willian, Pedro, Pulisic, Mount, Barkley, RLC and CHO. That's 7 players - which again is probably one too many (even though CHO and RLC won't be fit for the start of the season).

I originally guessed that Drinkwater and Bakayoko would be the 2 most obvious players to be left out of the squad, but perhaps with this formation it would be Bakayoko plus Willian?

Or maybe that central "attacking" midfielder will be less of a forward, and more like Mount and/or Barkley who will drop back into a more defensive position without the ball - and so it's really more of a 4-3-3.

Either way, even without taking into account younger players like Gilmour, we are probably over-stocked in that central midfield area. Who do you think will end up leaving?

comment by Devil (U6522)

posted on 18/7/19

One of the most intriguing yet terrifying aspects of this appointment is we have no idea how Lampard will setup. He has no philosophy, one year at a Championship club prior to managing us means nothing in that regard. In fact worst thing he could do is come in with set philosophies thinking he knows more than he does.... AVB did that.

This is absolute pie in the sky thinking, but I imagine being a Chelsea guy, learning from the managers he did as a player and knowing what brand of football we like, he'll try to incorporate a transition oriented style based on pace, power and energy. Basically a modernized twist on our mid to late noughties team's football, in essence what Solskjaer's doing trying to recapture the 'give no f*cks' attacking style of Ferguson.

posted on 19/7/19

Frank played a variety of formations at Derby (from 4231/433 to 442 diamond to 343) but the aim remained the same...implementing high-octane pressing and quick possession-based attacking football (Jody Morris' blueprint allover the ideology, hallmarks of his very successful flexible academy sides).


Possession wont be as extreme as Sarri' rigid restrictive patterns and automatisms.
Should be able to extract the best/most out of the quality players that Jody coached for starters.

posted on 19/7/19

Derby's dominant performance (in all aspects) at Old Trafford in Carabao Cup is a glimpse of what's to come.

Implementation at Chelsea should be vastly better, given the high-quality of players at disposal.

posted on 19/7/19

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comment by jp1911 (U9072)

posted on 19/7/19

I'm hoping we see the below pretty regularly next season,

CHO------------RLC/Mount--------------pulisic
------Jorginho/Kova--------Kante

posted on 19/7/19

Hudson-Odoi wants out, seems pointless to let him make mistakes and grow if it's Chelsea who will feel the pain and Munich the benefit.

comment by jp1911 (U9072)

posted on 19/7/19

comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 5 minutes ago
Hudson-Odoi wants out, seems pointless to let him make mistakes and grow if it's Chelsea who will feel the pain and Munich the benefit.
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All the recent reports suggest a 5 year 100k a week deal is close to being signed

posted on 19/7/19

comment by jp1911 (U9072)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 5 minutes ago
Hudson-Odoi wants out, seems pointless to let him make mistakes and grow if it's Chelsea who will feel the pain and Munich the benefit.
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All the recent reports suggest a 5 year 100k a week deal is close to being signed
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On the Sky transfer podcast yesterday it said those were rubbish and that there remained considerable distance between Chelsea's offer and one he would be willing to accept...

His head has been turned.

comment by Devil (U6522)

posted on 19/7/19

Derby's dominant performance (in all aspects) at Old Trafford in Carabao Cup is a glimpse of what's to come.

Implementation at Chelsea should be vastly better, given the high-quality of players at disposal.
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That's one aspect from his Derby team I think he will try to replicate, the mini-gegenpress against teams he deems better than us. Our games against City & Pool this season should be very entertaining

But against the rest of the league I wouldn't put too much stock into how Derby played in general when determining how we'll set up. This'll be a learning curve, whether this goes well or terribly I guarantee his ideology will have changed by the time we part company.

comment by BlueJ2 (U4630)

posted on 19/7/19

comment by jp1911 (U9072)
posted 10 hours, 2 minutes ago
I'm hoping we see the below pretty regularly next season,

CHO------------RLC/Mount--------------pulisic
------Jorginho/Kova--------Kante
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I notice your team doesn't have a striker......which is fairly accurate.

But yes, I agree with you. I think that will be our best team.

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