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Tierney Debacle

Afternoon Gooners

Don't know much about the player so wondering. The little I do know about him tells me that 25 outright to sign him is a more than reasonable price and likely half what it would be if he was at an EPL team. With Monreal (whilst a valuable experience contributor) aged and Kolasinac certainly a work in progress and looking injury prone. I can't understand why we aren't just getting the deal done for paltry sum. Sign him, position sorted, move on.

I can see why Stan and cronies don't want to spank 200mil into the club for big name signings. But making a few million extra available so we don't have to haggle over already bargain basement players. Seems prudent to do, if nothing else just from a PR point of view. Inability to stump up chump change transfer fees to get a deal done, makes us look poorer than we are. Not to mention somewhat incompetent.

At the point now where I just want this deal done. Don't think I even care if he's that good or not. At early 20s and 25 mil, I'd say that doesn't even qualify as much of a "punt" to be taking. I mean let's face it, ANY self respecting PL manager should have no problem at all getting value for money at that price, signing a kid that young. Is my sentiment here right or should we not even be looking at the deal. Get him signed at 25 full or forget about him and risk LB issues this season?

posted on 21/7/19

Sanllehi is a far better negotiator than the previous regime. I think his time at Barca buys him a fair amount of latitude in our dealing. Edu has also only just joined so I am not so surprised at the speed of our negotiations. I am definitely happy about new strategy compared to previous years. We are focussing on youth and truly exceptional talents. Spending £30m+ on Mustafi for example, was a disaster. Compare that to Saliba.

posted on 21/7/19

comment by theresgonnaebeashow (U5686)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
He will be better than Roberrtson.

25 mill is buttons for him. Deserves to be in the CL.
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Can I have some of what you are smoking?

posted on 21/7/19

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
Sanllehi is a far better negotiator than the previous regime. I think his time at Barca buys him a fair amount of latitude in our dealing. Edu has also only just joined so I am not so surprised at the speed of our negotiations. I am definitely happy about new strategy compared to previous years. We are focussing on youth and truly exceptional talents. Spending £30m+ on Mustafi for example, was a disaster. Compare that to Saliba.
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You're talking about target selection though. 30 mil on Mustafi would have been a steal if he'd been a successful fit. I'm happy with the focus, it's the faffing that's getting on my nerves. Our budgetary limitations me we can't muck about if we've identified a player with the focus you mention. His potential resale value alone means other clubs will begin to get interested, the longer it drags on with us. Not to mention it sends the wrong message to the player, if a club won't even stump up the cheap as chops asking price.

He has to think of his financial future. It's not going to make him confident of getting himself a good deal for his second contract.His agent wants to get paid too so it'll be, "If they're haggling over that crappy fee now mate, then I don't fancy your chances of a hefty pay rise on your next contract. You'll make more money at..." that's the advice he's giving, if anyone with some spending power comes a calling.

posted on 21/7/19

comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by theresgonnaebeashow (U5686)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
He will be better than Roberrtson.

25 mill is buttons for him. Deserves to be in the CL.
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Can I have some of what you are smoking?
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And thus spake The Berr.

posted on 21/7/19

comment by Emery's Bodyguard (Formerly WB2) (U8276)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
Sanllehi is a far better negotiator than the previous regime. I think his time at Barca buys him a fair amount of latitude in our dealing. Edu has also only just joined so I am not so surprised at the speed of our negotiations. I am definitely happy about new strategy compared to previous years. We are focussing on youth and truly exceptional talents. Spending £30m+ on Mustafi for example, was a disaster. Compare that to Saliba.
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You're talking about target selection though. 30 mil on Mustafi would have been a steal if he'd been a successful fit. I'm happy with the focus, it's the faffing that's getting on my nerves. Our budgetary limitations me we can't muck about if we've identified a player with the focus you mention. His potential resale value alone means other clubs will begin to get interested, the longer it drags on with us. Not to mention it sends the wrong message to the player, if a club won't even stump up the cheap as chops asking price.

He has to think of his financial future. It's not going to make him confident of getting himself a good deal for his second contract.His agent wants to get paid too so it'll be, "If they're haggling over that crappy fee now mate, then I don't fancy your chances of a hefty pay rise on your next contract. You'll make more money at..." that's the advice he's giving, if anyone with some spending power comes a calling.
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Not every single agent is a money-grabbing w|-|ore like Mino Raiola, some of them are happy with the substantial amounts of money they make without being excessively greedy and holding clubs to ransom, some of them certainly care more about the players themselves and the player's futures football-wise, not simply seeing dollar signs flashing before their eyes.

posted on 21/7/19

With the 2019-2020 season just around the corner, can anyone convincingly claim that Arsenal is a stronger club than last year? Or will they merely be fighting it out with Wolves and Everton for 6th. place in the PL?

posted on 21/7/19

Well we had Holding & Bellerin, two of our first choice and one of our best defenders (Holding) missing for nearly the entire season so they actually will be LANS'.

On the downside we lost our best Midfielder on a free.

posted on 21/7/19

The players should also be more comfortable/familiar working with Emery and they will better understand his tactical instructions by now. If we get Tierney, Ceballos on loan, a winger (Everton/Zaha) and Saliba confirmed then I will be satisfied. My feeling is that we'll get Tierney and Ceballos plus Saliba agreed to join next season but no winger.

posted on 21/7/19

comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 1 hour, 51 minutes ago
With the 2019-2020 season just around the corner, can anyone convincingly claim that Arsenal is a stronger club than last year? Or will they merely be fighting it out with Wolves and Everton for 6th. place in the PL?
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Not yet, but if we get the 4 players expected then yes.

comment by BO$$™ (U6401)

posted on 21/7/19

If we get Saliba, Everton, Tierney, Cellibos (loan) and another CB it will be a very good summer transfer window. Especially considering we havent really lost anyone (Ramsey was gone in Jan).

If we somehow manage to offload Ozil/Miki and nab Zaha it turns into an amazing summer.

I think atm Saliba, Cellibos and Tierney are around 70% done.

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