Bye bye May😄😄😄😄

comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 9 minutes ago
She'll be going back to a cushy little number as an PM and probably earning tidy money on the side by speaking at events

It's not really a classic definition of comeuppance.
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Or given a peerage!

Today is a very hostile environment for her....sorry hot environment

I always felt Chris Grayling was kept in a job as a lightning magnet. i.e. While he was the butt of the jokes, nobody else was. He should have been sacked over the ferry contracts if not before, particularly as it had a distinct whiff of corruption about it.

As for May, I saw Robbing_Hood write this:

"Basically championed austerity amoung other things. Then you have the Windrush scandel, Atos health assessments, the roll out of universal credit, mandatory work activity for long term unemployed and I could go on. Lives ruined and lost basically."

As someone who is, let's say, Conservatively inclined - but not a member - my opinions on May and her government are thus:

- Given the way the deficit has been brought down, I'm still far from convinced that austerity was a bad idea. Seems to me it was about doing unwanted things to prevent worse things.
- Windrush was a balls-up rather than anything nastier, and an administrative issue that had its roots dating back years. Although her work at the Home Office did create the much-spoken-of hostile environment and the Tories were slow to react to the situation because they didn't particularly care.
- Same with Grenfell.
- Atos health assessments: I've heard some details of them and they are horrible. Need sorting out, fast.
- Universal credit seems to me that it's fundamentally a good idea but hasn't been implemented correctly. The government should have been prepared to effectively give away one-off payments of "free" money in places to bridge cracks instead of letting people fall into them. I'm also not comfortable with the idea that it's dealing with credit and debt instead of keeping things simpler and more tangible. But the idea is to pull people out of a spiral of unemployment, which is a good thing.
- This is anecdotal, but I know someone whose life has been massively transformed for the better by essentially being pushed to get back into work, doing something. He was stuck in an unemployed rut.

Overall, I'm convinced that she tried her best for the country, but the situation was too tough and she made some core mistakes that made things worse and worse. That and she doesn't have that element of charm and statesmanship (statespersonship?) that is needed from a leader.

Unfortunately Boris is incompetent so who knows what will happen next.

It's July.

comment by Martial FC (U11781)
posted 3 hours, 9 minutes ago
You should read the United Nations report on poverty in the United Kingdom, Nick. 15m of this country’s population have been declared destitute.

Fifth largest economy in the world. Quarter of its population have no permanent address. Take that in.
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What a ridiculous post - full of half truths and some outright lies

comment by Robb Ferguson (U21234)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Martial FC (U11781)
posted 3 hours, 9 minutes ago
You should read the United Nations report on poverty in the United Kingdom, Nick. 15m of this country’s population have been declared destitute.

Fifth largest economy in the world. Quarter of its population have no permanent address. Take that in.
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What a ridiculous post - full of half truths and some outright lies
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No fixed abode 15 million...dear Lord.

Is this Dianne Abbott.??🤩

Thought this was a football forum!

Philip Alston's report found that although the UK is the world’s fifth largest economy, one-fifth of its population – 14 million people – live in poverty, and 1.5 million of them experienced destitution in 2017, while close to 40 per cent of children are predicted to be living in poverty by 2021.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/un-poverty-austerity-uk-universal-credit-report-philip-alston-a8924576.html

My mistake, 14 million in poverty. And 1.5m in destitute. I missed a decimal point. Now, still try and defend that eh?

It’s never justifiable. It’s not grown since austerity or the tories though, it’s reduced since 2005.

I’m sure she’s crying into a silk pillow in any one of her several million pound houses right now...

...or not.