Iwobi future

If he is being played out of position that explains a bit as he has never really wowed me. Saying he is one of our most direct players really highlights the lack of quality in the team and/ or desperate need to wingers.

Really cannot see how he could justify a first team place at Arsenal? Could be a starter for a mid table, maybe even 8-10 placed club.

Iwobi wouldn't make Bournemouth's 11 (even their benchwarmers like Stanislas are better than him). He really adds very little to our team. He's deceptively slow (even though he "looks" athletic) and rarely takes players on (but people will crow over him for the odd nutmeg) and is highly predictable in his patterns (almost always cuts in - rarely driving to the byeline) and doesn't make runs off the ball to get behind the opposition defense, and can't cross, and can't shoot, and his pass completion is mostly in the 70's despite creating less chances than nearly a dozen fullbacks in the league.

He's such a nothing player. Don't know what anyone sees in him.

comment by Sheriff John Brown - Wenger Till I Die (U7482)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
Iwobi wouldn't make Bournemouth's 11 (even their benchwarmers like Stanislas are better than him). He really adds very little to our team. He's deceptively slow (even though he "looks" athletic) and rarely takes players on (but people will crow over him for the odd nutmeg) and is highly predictable in his patterns (almost always cuts in - rarely driving to the byeline) and doesn't make runs off the ball to get behind the opposition defense, and can't cross, and can't shoot, and his pass completion is mostly in the 70's despite creating less chances than nearly a dozen fullbacks in the league.

He's such a nothing player. Don't know what anyone sees in him.
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He is played because he pressurises the opposition an doesn;t give them time on the ball. He is high energy and good at pinning the opposition back.

Having said all that, we can do better as his finishing and final ball are erratic at best. Would do a good job at somewhere like West Ham or Palace but long-term is not the answer at a club of our standing.

He is played because he pressurises the opposition an doesn;t give them time on the ball. He is high energy and good at pinning the opposition back.
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Compared to Ozil? Maybe. Compared to the average PL player, Iwobi is pretty languid. If you check his stats for duels won or tackles won or interceptions won etc, he lags behind the average player.

comment by Sheriff John Brown - Wenger Till I Die (U7482)
posted 23 minutes ago
He is played because he pressurises the opposition an doesn;t give them time on the ball. He is high energy and good at pinning the opposition back.
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Compared to Ozil? Maybe. Compared to the average PL player, Iwobi is pretty languid. If you check his stats for duels won or tackles won or interceptions won etc, he lags behind the average player.
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Not saying he's anything special just explaining why he sometimes plays. Also Opta stats can be deceiving for example Ozil is often near the top of stats for miles/kms run during a game but as we all know this 'running' is rarely as effective as it should be. Mkhi is another with decent enough stats but who flatters to deceive.

Messi is another with average stats in many areas but who almost always delivers where it matters (in the opponent's six yard box)

comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Wenger Till I Die (U7482)
posted 23 minutes ago
He is played because he pressurises the opposition an doesn;t give them time on the ball. He is high energy and good at pinning the opposition back.
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Compared to Ozil? Maybe. Compared to the average PL player, Iwobi is pretty languid. If you check his stats for duels won or tackles won or interceptions won etc, he lags behind the average player.
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Not saying he's anything special just explaining why he sometimes plays. Also Opta stats can be deceiving for example Ozil is often near the top of stats for miles/kms run during a game but as we all know this 'running' is rarely as effective as it should be. Mkhi is another with decent enough stats but who flatters to deceive.

Messi is another with average stats in many areas but who almost always delivers where it matters (in the opponent's six yard box)
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Of course he plays because we have no other options. Point being that his being such an option is ridiculous for a club of our stature and ambitions. Iwobi is at absolute best a mid-table level player. There are many clubs outside the PL top 6 I'd bet he wouldn't start for.

comment by Sheriff John Brown - Wenger Till I Die (U7482)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Dan Arsenal (U21084)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Wenger Till I Die (U7482)
posted 23 minutes ago
He is played because he pressurises the opposition an doesn;t give them time on the ball. He is high energy and good at pinning the opposition back.
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Compared to Ozil? Maybe. Compared to the average PL player, Iwobi is pretty languid. If you check his stats for duels won or tackles won or interceptions won etc, he lags behind the average player.
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Not saying he's anything special just explaining why he sometimes plays. Also Opta stats can be deceiving for example Ozil is often near the top of stats for miles/kms run during a game but as we all know this 'running' is rarely as effective as it should be. Mkhi is another with decent enough stats but who flatters to deceive.

Messi is another with average stats in many areas but who almost always delivers where it matters (in the opponent's six yard box)
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Of course he plays because we have no other options. Point being that his being such an option is ridiculous for a club of our stature and ambitions. Iwobi is at absolute best a mid-table level player. There are many clubs outside the PL top 6 I'd bet he wouldn't start for.
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Agree mate. Pepe looks like a massive upgrade. In fact looking back we probably should have kept Walcott as at least he scored a few

Depending on his wages if hes not on too much then he can probably stay as a squad player, nothing more than that. He's had his chance to prove he's good enough to start for Arsenal but he hasn't done it. It's one of the things I like about Emery he has pretty much given everyone a chance so if they haven't grabbed that chance they cant blame anyone but themselves.

There have been lots of rumours that Iwobi might be repositioned to a more central box to box role. Think he might be really good at it but if he demands to leave. So be it. Kind of reflects the weak mentality Wenger inculcated.

But where would he fit into the team in a box-to-box role? We can continue to sideline Ozil and give Mk a bit-part role but with the addition of Pepe, toreria*\ guendozi* and Xhaka, plus now Cabellos, if Iwobi wants a central midfield role its going to be tough to get st Arsenal.