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John McGinn

Scored the opener against Spurs at White Hart Lane.

Thank fook Lawwell didn't shell out that extra cash for him.


posted 6 days ago

In this case, specifically Lawell, and his hubris. So yeah, if you like by extension, the Board.

Hypocritical to praise Lawell for the excellent work done in getting asset value for KT, yet ignoring the abject failure to acquire asset value in McGinn when it was there to be had.

Lawell fvcked up. Simple as that.

posted 6 days ago

comment by Aye, OK, its Subs - what's the fvkkin poi... (U5683)
posted 5 minutes ago
In this case, specifically Lawell, and his hubris. So yeah, if you like by extension, the Board.

Hypocritical to praise Lawell for the excellent work done in getting asset value for KT, yet ignoring the abject failure to acquire asset value in McGinn when it was there to be had.

Lawell fvcked up. Simple as that.
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Nothing to do with scouts and/or the manager then?
Or maybe even the unwillingness of the owner who might just possibly have been getting bad vibes from the manager on his rhetoric re signings at that time then?

Ok.

posted 6 days ago

Nothing to do with scouts and/or the manager then?
Or maybe even the unwillingness of the owner who might just possibly have been getting bad vibes from the manager on his rhetoric re signings at that time then?

Ok.
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Yep, that's right. Absolutely nothing to do with any of that attempted speculative scattergun of deflection nonsense whatsoever.

We made an offer short of Hibs evaluation. Had Lawell got his finger out and met it there and then the deal would have been done. Lawell in hubris thought he could wheel and deal for a few hundred k's worth, as he always does - partly reliant on the boy's emotional support for Celitc. That fvkkin about took time and left the door open for Villa when the deal should have been done and dusted. Net result was the boy went south for the sake of delay over a few hundred k, and we lost potentially massive, certainly significant, asset value. Lawell's hubris fvcked it up. DD buttonholed Lawell over it and told him that BR confirms the targets and it was Lawell's job to get them signed "so you fvvkin get them signed!".

Glad I could clear that up for you.

posted 6 days ago

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by Zico♡ (U21900)
posted 24 minutes ago
For half a million quid he would have replaced Broony.
The board fooked up, it's that simple.
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Always the board eh?
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Not always mate, but certainly at fault on this occasion.

posted 5 days, 23 hours ago

comment by Aye, OK, its Subs - what's the fvkkin poi... (U5683)
posted 1 hour ago
Nothing to do with scouts and/or the manager then?
Or maybe even the unwillingness of the owner who might just possibly have been getting bad vibes from the manager on his rhetoric re signings at that time then?

Ok.
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Yep, that's right. Absolutely nothing to do with any of that attempted speculative scattergun of deflection nonsense whatsoever.

We made an offer short of Hibs evaluation. Had Lawell got his finger out and met it there and then the deal would have been done. Lawell in hubris thought he could wheel and deal for a few hundred k's worth, as he always does - partly reliant on the boy's emotional support for Celitc. That fvkkin about took time and left the door open for Villa when the deal should have been done and dusted. Net result was the boy went south for the sake of delay over a few hundred k, and we lost potentially massive, certainly significant, asset value. Lawell's hubris fvcked it up. DD buttonholed Lawell over it and told him that BR confirms the targets and it was Lawell's job to get them signed "so you fvvkin get them signed!".

Glad I could clear that up for you.
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And you know this for fact yes?

Hahahahaha

Behave yourself.

What are you going to be claiming next from this place insider source

comment by timmy (U14278)

posted 5 days, 23 hours ago

Rodgers made it clear he was a priority and even phoned him. It was Lawell that let him down.

comment by timmy (U14278)

posted 5 days, 23 hours ago

No wonder Rodgers left when that was how he was backed.

posted 5 days, 22 hours ago

timmy.

OK Pete fcked up on that one. Just get over it.

posted 5 days, 22 hours ago

comment by timmy (U14278)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
Rodgers made it clear he was a priority and even phoned him. It was Lawell that let him down.
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And as much as everyone else proclaims to be itk; how do you know this?

Did they confide in you?

posted 5 days, 18 hours ago

Nothing to do with scouts and/or the manager then?
Or maybe even the unwillingness of the owner who might just possibly have been getting bad vibes from the manager on his rhetoric re signings at that time then?

Ok.
-------------------------------------------
Yep, that's right. Absolutely nothing to do with any of that attempted speculative scattergun of deflection nonsense whatsoever.

We made an offer short of Hibs evaluation. Had Lawell got his finger out and met it there and then the deal would have been done. Lawell in hubris thought he could wheel and deal for a few hundred k's worth, as he always does - partly reliant on the boy's emotional support for Celitc. That fvkkin about took time and left the door open for Villa when the deal should have been done and dusted. Net result was the boy went south for the sake of delay over a few hundred k, and we lost potentially massive, certainly significant, asset value. Lawell's hubris fvcked it up. DD buttonholed Lawell over it and told him that BR confirms the targets and it was Lawell's job to get them signed "so you fvvkin get them signed!".

Glad I could clear that up for you.
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And you know this for fact yes?

Hahahahaha

Behave yourself.

What are you going to be claiming next from this place insider source
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None so blind as them who will not see.

I'll not convince you unless revealing who it came from, and that ain't happening, so pointless making more of it than this really: Yes I do believe it to be true - the DD 'quote' is exactly as it was told to me from someone who claimed to be present when it happened. Someone who has no axe to grind against board or club, quite the contrary, and had a fully credible reason to be present.

But, OK then - for arguments sake, let's assume what I was told has no credibility, and look at the comparative credibility of your supposed alternatives:

Scouts and/or the manager called it off - Really? An offer was made, so it's pretty plain to see that your scout and manger theory is a pile of horse-shiite... unless... Did they change their minds? Was Brendan delighted he dodged a bullet in not signing McGinn then? Hard to tell was it? Coz he sure as hell kept his jubilation under wraps!

Unwillingness of DD - where he'd just backed him to the tune of what, £9m for Eddy? There were issues, but those were after the McGinn fiasco, indeed (I speculate here) lilkely a contributory factor to the breach in relationship between PL and BR. Did you really think that DD passed up McGinn for a few hundred k on the strength of considerations over Brendan's attitude? "Aye, Peter, I know we've made our initial cheeky wee offer, and the lad has had a fantastic season and might replace Broonie and the fans would be delighted to have him sign, but I'm just no sure about Brendan y'know... so you see if you can low ball and eek it out 'til someone else comes in... no no, don't just walk away...eek it out" FFS

So, do either of these rationales seem all that reasonable in context?

Then there's your own credibility here to consider...

See, if you really knew with any degree of certainty which of the above was true (even if either remotely were ), you'd have stated ONE of them. Firing off in a scattergun of if's and mebbe's just makes your whole rationale look like you're shooting in the dark. Which one is it you're hanging your hat on today? Keeping the other for back up just in case aye?

Events occurred as I've stated them - believe that or not is up to you. For my part, up 'til then I'd pretty much believed in all Lawell and the Board did, and had defended their strategy almost 100% up to then. I don't know if you've noticed, but it takes some significant facts for me to change my mind about something. Lawell fvcking up signing McGinn was one of them.

I'll give the board and Lawell their due, and on KT they've done very well by us. I'm not blindly or blithely happy to blame anyone and everyone but them when they fvck up though - I'll leave that sort of sycophancy to you, and to the more deluded Berz., if you really think that's healthy for our club. On the evidence of theirs, I don't.

Happy to take any laughter or snide itk jibes on the chin here if you find that helpful - because in this matter at least, I do, patently, know more than you do. Makes no odds to me, as the truth is always the truth anyway, and I'm perfectly comfortable in that from this end. Deal wi that as you like from yours.

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