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Zidane could quit Real over Pogba

Real Madrid’s inability, or unwillingness, to make a serious effort to sign Paul Pogba this summer points to big differences between coach Zinedine Zidane and president Florentino Perez

Despite a huge outlay on bringing Eden Hazard, Luka Jovic, Ferland Mendy and Eder Militao to the Bernabeu, Zidane could be set to quit Real due to Perez's failure to bring in Pogba. The idea was that the 2018 World Cup Winner, 26, would replace the ageing Luka Modric in midfield, and bring more athleticism and goals while being the central figure in a new more direct team.

Perez initially hadn't been keen to do a deal due to Pogba's huge wages and fee, while Zidane wanted to freshen up his aging midfield - seeing Pogba as the one to do so.

The chief also clashed with Zidane over Gareth Bale's future - with Perez pulling the plug on a move to China after the Welshman had fallen out with the manager.

“Not signing Pogba puts Zidane on the brink of resigning," Spanish journalist Diego Torres told The Independent.

“Zidane personally promised Pogba he would bring him to Madrid, and now he is left looking bad."

“This has only increased the lack of confidence between Zidane and Florentino."

“For Zidane, his project and Pogba are almost the same thing. Nothing that he was promised has really come to pass."

“Zidane returned as a protective shield for Florentino, but he has already fulfilled that political and social mission."
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He might be quiting by early September with the way things are going....

I've said it before - I don't think anyone, other than Zidane, wants Pogba. Other reports have mentioned that Perez spoke to Jose about Pogba and has been reluctant to sign him based on what he was told by Jose (who could replace Zidane if he walks or gets fired).

posted on 13/8/19

Be hilarious if zidane quits over a player who’d arguably not improve them at all.

posted on 14/8/19

Ndombele is a replacement for Dembele. Dembele had a very good season the season before last. Last season he was out inured and not the same player. Would have left anyway in the summer so rightly sold. He wasn't replaced straight away.

Le Celso is seen as an Eriksen replacement, and rightly or wrongly, and time will tell if that's the case. He is highly rated and did well at Betis. I think he'll play a little deeper than the positions Eriksen takes up, though. Spurs do need to find a way to keep Eriksen. There's another Argentine in the side who is better off being binned than letting Eriksen go.

Sessegnon is a player with a high ceiling, but not in defence. I think we'll see the same transformation as we saw with Bale (positionally speaking, whether he reaches the heights Bale did you Spurs remains to be seen). He had already ended last season playing as an Inside Right Forward and previously had a great season in the championship at LM/LW. He has been poor at LB for Fulham. If Poch does see him as a replacement for Rose, he would have to work on his defensive side. Or maybe as an LWB he could work out.

A lot is made of the run to the CL final. At the moment it is a one off. It's not like Spurs and Ajax have constantly been finalists or Semi-finalists in the competition for the past few years. Let's not forget that Spurs have finished dropped a position in the last two years - finished 4th and last season ended with 13 defeats despite holding a strong lead over 4th-6th positions team for much of the season. The CL run papered over the cracks in the side last year. These signings were made to improve the side yet some things are still missing such as a RB and maybe another CB, (if the two Belgians leave could become a big issue). Dele hasn't been as good as his first few years And a back up for Kane.

posted on 14/8/19

Dembele had a meh 17/18 - had a crazy hot streak around February/March which was when he had his crazy game against Juventus which led to a lot of outsiders assuming this is what he had been doing all year but he was out Injured for most of the first half of the season and the fitness problems started, common consensus was that he no longer could play more than 1 game a week. We're talking about a guy here who never managed to start 30 games for Poch.

Sessegnon definitely has a higher ceiling as a fullback then he does as a an attacking player imo. He's a better winger than he Is a fullback at present and the plan is to use him there in the short term. Every young fullback in the world struggles positionally now though. TAA and AWB both do (obviously AWB doesn't to the same extent but he was probably the best defensive fullback in the world last season). I think that a reality of the modern game is that most fullbacks are pretty bad defensively, maybe less so in terms of positional awareness but most struggle as 1 on 1 defenders. This is what makes AWB, a legit stopper at fullback, such an interesting prospect.

He managed to score so many goals in the championship because of how ridiculously intelligent he is and how rapid he is.He also had a clear technical advantage over championship level players which wont translate to a higher level. He doesnt have the comfort dribbling In tight spaces, Creativity or final ball to really excel as an attacker, whereas he could excel as a Poch fullback; in fact he's basically a perfect fit for us. Our fullbacks ideally play like wingers anyway so it really makes too much sense.

CL run did paper over the cracks and it was a frustrating league campaign. In 17/18 we still got over 25 starts out of mousa, and a meh mousa was still better than anything we had.

This last season we just had no one player who could fill his role so we had to spread out his responsibilities among multiple players. We moved to a 3 man midfield because of this and made Dele and Eriksen play deeper which caused them to both suffer performance wise. Ndombele can do what Dembele did, or atleast I have no reason to assume that he can't based on his performances for lyon.

posted on 14/8/19

I don't see Sessegnon staying as a defender. His defensive game has too many flaws and his best attributes suits playing further forward. It is the modern trend to have FBs work like wingers and wingers to play on the opposite side so they can cut in. He could work out in a Poch team at LB but I don't think we'll ever see the best of him if he remains an LB.

comment by Ace (U18814)

posted on 14/8/19

comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 5 hours, 52 minutes ago
Ndombele is a replacement for Dembele. Dembele had a very good season the season before last. Last season he was out inured and not the same player. Would have left anyway in the summer so rightly sold. He wasn't replaced straight away.

Le Celso is seen as an Eriksen replacement, and rightly or wrongly, and time will tell if that's the case. He is highly rated and did well at Betis. I think he'll play a little deeper than the positions Eriksen takes up, though. Spurs do need to find a way to keep Eriksen. There's another Argentine in the side who is better off being binned than letting Eriksen go.

Sessegnon is a player with a high ceiling, but not in defence. I think we'll see the same transformation as we saw with Bale (positionally speaking, whether he reaches the heights Bale did you Spurs remains to be seen). He had already ended last season playing as an Inside Right Forward and previously had a great season in the championship at LM/LW. He has been poor at LB for Fulham. If Poch does see him as a replacement for Rose, he would have to work on his defensive side. Or maybe as an LWB he could work out.

A lot is made of the run to the CL final. At the moment it is a one off. It's not like Spurs and Ajax have constantly been finalists or Semi-finalists in the competition for the past few years. Let's not forget that Spurs have finished dropped a position in the last two years - finished 4th and last season ended with 13 defeats despite holding a strong lead over 4th-6th positions team for much of the season. The CL run papered over the cracks in the side last year. These signings were made to improve the side yet some things are still missing such as a RB and maybe another CB, (if the two Belgians leave could become a big issue). Dele hasn't been as good as his first few years And a back up for Kane.
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Nope. Sissoko effectively replaced Dembele in our team last season. Ndombele is an addition, not a replacement for a guy that has been gone for virtually a year. Spurs have signed Lo Celso while also offering Eriksen a £200k a week contract, which makes it evident we are wanting to have both in the same squad, not replace one with the other. Eriksen may reject that contract and leave, in which case we will go back to the market to replace him. Doesn’t matter whether Sess long term is a full back or attacker, the point made was he was is a player Poch has wanted for a long time and the club delivered him, just as they delivered his other key targets in TNd and GLC. Vert is unlikely to leave. Toby will leave, we’ve known that for some time; we’ve bought Foyth and Sanchez, and are also capable of signing other CBs if needed. RB remains a concern. Last season was a very difficult one for us for many reasons and the CL run did paper over the cracks, but we have now replenished our squad, had a proper preseason, started in our own home ground etc. Feel free to keep belittling every area of our team and our chances of getting anywhere, but the reality is you’re just trotting our cliches without applying any context.

posted on 14/8/19

Ace, I'm not belittling your team. You need to calm down, and this is not an attack on Tottenham, just my opinion. The way you see your club is different from how others see it. I'm putting across my opinion. Others have done so. People can disagree. We on the United board have many over our own teams. There are things you will see about our teams that we will not.

Take Chris's response. He has put across his view in how Dembele's form was seen by spurs fans compared to how others have seen it.

Anythting that could happen is being discussed (reports of Verts being angry came out, for example). Plenty have discussed the players leaving United such as Pogba, or Pogba's reaction if a move does not come off.

There are some people who may belittle teams, or wum, such as your very own Morespurs, and they're rightly called out for it. I don't see what I said is that.

comment by Ace (U18814)

posted on 14/8/19

comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 59 minutes ago
Ace, I'm not belittling your team. You need to calm down, and this is not an attack on Tottenham, just my opinion. The way you see your club is different from how others see it. I'm putting across my opinion. Others have done so. People can disagree. We on the United board have many over our own teams. There are things you will see about our teams that we will not.

Take Chris's response. He has put across his view in how Dembele's form was seen by spurs fans compared to how others have seen it.

Anythting that could happen is being discussed (reports of Verts being angry came out, for example). Plenty have discussed the players leaving United such as Pogba, or Pogba's reaction if a move does not come off.

There are some people who may belittle teams, or wum, such as your very own Morespurs, and they're rightly called out for it. I don't see what I said is that.
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I’m not having a pop at you, I’m just saying you’re not applying context to your comments - what you’re saying is a lazy analysis. As I said, we didn’t have Dembele last season however Sissoko took over his central MF role and was one of our players of the season. TNd has subsequently been added but I don’t hold with him being Dembele’s replacement and is not improving the squad, as we didn’t have Dembele for virtually a full season anyway. Similarly, we are trying to negotiate a new contract for Eriksen despite having signed GLC, so it’s obvious we haven’t signed one to replace the other. Ideally we’d have both, but we are beholden to Eriksens decision about his future. You are claiming these players are just replacements for others but that is patently wrong - unless you accept that every signing is somehow a replacement for someone else somewhere down the line.

posted on 14/8/19

I did say Ndombele is a replacement, I didn't say Le Celso is, nor about Sessegnon (his one was more about his position, and I didn't say anything about him not being wanted by Poch as you guys have been linked with him for a long time) . I said Le Celso is seen as one (from the outside I should add) rightly or wrongly, and time will tell if that's the case. My reasons for that is that Managers don't always replace players like for like. We had Carrick replace Keane and they're not the same type of player (we also had Valencia come in for Ronaldo ). If Eriksen leaves he could be his replacement, and if that's the case it's good forward thinking. Le Celso is also quite young while Eriksen willl be 28 this year. In 3-4 years time, that could work out well for Tottenham if Eriksen stays. As by then he'll start to decline and Le Celso could be hitting his prime. You'll notice I've not said anything definite about him because i am only speculating based on what I've read or (of what little) seen.

posted on 14/8/19

Luka Jovic could sensationally leave Real Madrid on loan.

The news emerges from Marca and Serbian sources just weeks after his €60m move to the Bernabeu from Eintracht Frankfurt.

With Karim Benzema set to remain the main man for Zinedine Zidane, reports suggest the French coach has not been impressed by Jovic and could allow him to leave in order to gain regular first team action.

posted on 14/8/19

you can never no matter what feel sorry for Madrid

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