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How should we approach the Europa League?

The Europa League is one of those tournaments that it’s great if you win it. Winning it was arguably our best moment post SAF. The other thing about the Europa is that if you don’t win it it’s a bit of a hindrance.

Here’s how I would approach it if I was Ole.

Group stages:

Let’s face it the majority of the lower seeded teams in the Europa are poor and below PL standards. Unless we are really unlucky we should get a group we can get out of using youngsters and fringe players and this is the approach we should take imo. Ole will surely have the majority of his XI in mind for the following weekends game and if I was him I’d leave as much of them as possible out of the Europa match day squad. We certain have the squad to so.

I would certainly use this approach for the first 3 and then re evaluate depending on results.


Knock outs:

Providing we make it of course. For the knock outs it depends how we’re doing in the league.

If we are in a tight battle for top 4 or a good bit outside of it then obviously we go full strength in the Europa.

If we are comfortably in the top 4 which is unlikely then continue the approach of squad players and youngsters until at least the quarter finals if we get that far.

How do you guys think we should approach the Europa this season.

posted 3 days, 12 hours ago

comment by Robb - Steve Smith = Legend 🏏🏆 (U21234)
posted 2 hours, 50 minutes ago
It should be our minimum aim this season. I’ve talked about playing a youth side in it but on reflection I think we have to win it as we’re the biggest side in it - let’s get a winning mentality into these young players - even into the likes of Maguire tbf
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I'm not in agreement with you on the VAR thread but I'm 100% in agreement here with you. We should always look to win.

posted 3 days, 12 hours ago

We should try to win it with the kids.

Greenwood, Gomes, Chong, Tuanzebe and Garner should all be playing.

posted 3 days, 11 hours ago

comment by Reputable Poster Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
We really do need to get over our arrogance of thinking this is beneath us as well. At the moment it's our level and the quicker we realise that the quicker we'll move up a level again.

There's no reason at all why we can't mount a top 4 challenge and win the Europa. Chelsea and Arsenal pretty much achieved it last season in terms of doing both so we should be able to as well.
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I wouldn't call it arrogance, I'd call it fear.

The Europa League has a history of totally messing up league campaigns, Chelsea last season was more the exception and not the rule. A strong finish in the top 4 will also help extinguish any doubts about our squads quality and Ole's tactical aptitude.

IMO we have bigger priorities than winning the Europa League, one of which is giving our youngsters the experience they deserve. If we play them I believe we are still taking the competition seriously because they are incredibly talented. Then we have our more experienced squad players who are deserving of minutes. This competition will play it's part in keeping our very large squad happy and more importantly fit.

We're also a couple of injuries away from looking like a top 10 ten club and not a top 6 club. If Pogba gets injured in Azerbaijan two days before a vital league game then our odds of winning severely drop. If we don't give midfielders like Garner and Gomes the experience to fill in for people like Pogba then Matic will play. This way we can have the best of both worlds but it would be suicide to play the majority of our first team in the EL imo.

posted 3 days, 8 hours ago

Depending on the group we are in, we should play a mixture of youth and squad players. We need players to keep up their match fitness and others to gain experience. We also need to manage the squad as competing I have 4 tournaments will take its toll. I'll add that we're one of the teams that's alway high up in the number of injuries and minutes missed through injury in the PL.

The EL can ba taken seriously depending on the opponents. We have some players who are good enough for it such as Romero, Jones Smalling, Tuanzebe, and etc that they could essentially be our first choice players for that tournament. Weak opposition, Dalot and Young at FB, strong, AWB and Shaw instead, for example.

It would be great to finish top 4 and win the EL. I'd take winning any of the cups plus top 4 (as winning the EL and top 4 gives you a CL place).

Our biggest problem area is midfield. If we can use the cups to see how Fred and Garner do (Matic is going to have the odd decent game but he's as good as done imo) it might give us a bit more options there later on in the season.

posted 3 days, 2 hours ago

comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 9 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by Reputable Poster Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
We really do need to get over our arrogance of thinking this is beneath us as well. At the moment it's our level and the quicker we realise that the quicker we'll move up a level again.

There's no reason at all why we can't mount a top 4 challenge and win the Europa. Chelsea and Arsenal pretty much achieved it last season in terms of doing both so we should be able to as well.
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I wouldn't call it arrogance, I'd call it fear.

The Europa League has a history of totally messing up league campaigns, Chelsea last season was more the exception and not the rule. A strong finish in the top 4 will also help extinguish any doubts about our squads quality and Ole's tactical aptitude.

IMO we have bigger priorities than winning the Europa League, one of which is giving our youngsters the experience they deserve. If we play them I believe we are still taking the competition seriously because they are incredibly talented. Then we have our more experienced squad players who are deserving of minutes. This competition will play it's part in keeping our very large squad happy and more importantly fit.

We're also a couple of injuries away from looking like a top 10 ten club and not a top 6 club. If Pogba gets injured in Azerbaijan two days before a vital league game then our odds of winning severely drop. If we don't give midfielders like Garner and Gomes the experience to fill in for people like Pogba then Matic will play. This way we can have the best of both worlds but it would be suicide to play the majority of our first team in the EL imo.
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I see what you're saying Kung Fu. I didn't mention it in the quoted post but previously I did state that I think we should fully utilise the squad players and youngsters in the EL but still treat it seriously. There will be plenty of players who will need game time and the EL is a good place to give them that. Perhaps that'll lead to a breakthrough for them like Kane at Spurs.

This is a team we could field without the players starting on Sunday and it would still be pretty strong IMO:

Romero
Dalot
Smalling
Jones
Young

Matic
Fred

Mata
Gomes
James

Greenwood

You still have some other players too such as Tuanzebe, Garner, Chong etc to come in.


posted 3 days, 1 hour ago

Mata is too slow for the wings, play him as a ten, James in the right and Gomes on the left of that's that line up. Prefer Garner over Matic but can understand why we would see Matic and Fred over him at this moment in time. Tuanzebe might be rotated for one of Jones and Smalling.

posted 3 days, 1 hour ago

Pretty similar to my team Diafol

You can see we have the depth to field two teams but we are lacking the quality, we can fix that by giving the youngsters experience.

I'd wedge Garner into your team somewhere because we desperately need reinforcements in midfield.

posted 2 days, 22 hours ago

CiC and KungFu. My team was more of an example than anything else but I do think having experience in there with the youngsters is crucial.

I do think we have a decent squad but that the squad is too full of squad players. Hopefully in the next season or so we'll get more quality into the first XI (hopefully some of the youngsters make the step up) which in turn should also strengthen the squad even more.

Garner is a good shout lads but I only put Matic in there really because, as a good honest pro, he does need game time somewhere if he stays at United.

posted 1 day, 16 hours ago

I must be in the minority of one as I want us to get out of it as soon as possible.

We don't have the depth for it, the novelty of winning it has been sated already when we won it and the schedule can be punishing even in this era of pampered footballers.

I say we pull a Klopp ala last season and reduce our schedule ( our midfield is poorer than many admit) focus on getting back into top four and focus on the local competitions.

Sure, we could win it - instil winning mentality etc, but we are too big a club to be known as serial EUROPA winners ( two plus winners in a decade.

Leave that to the Seville, Atletico and Chelseas.

We should be better than that!

posted 1 day, 13 hours ago

Even if United don’t win it we could do with having a good run to boost our coefficient. Bombing out early could see us in pot 3 if we do get back in the CL, whivh just makes our lives harder next season. Winning it is the ideal because we’d end up in pot one.

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