from the manager as regards the team.
Quote from Poch after Saturdays match
"The team and squad is still unsettled," said Pochettino afterwards. "We will need to wait until after the transfer window in Europe closes to see which players we are going to have and that is not easy."
I thought this was the season Spurs were supposed to have gone in and strengthened the squad early, then been up and running when the season started, ready to really compete.
My take after the first two matches, is that all is not well behind the scenes, two very disjointed performances, our new players are nowhere ready to affect games early season, one is injured, one has not started, and the other looks a bit of the pace, although he did get us back into the game last week. Verts seems to have fallen out with the manager. Eriksen wants out. Still have far to many injured squad players. Has anybody actually seen Dier, Aurier, Wanyama, Davies etc none of them have had a minutes play, either pre season or the two games played thus far, I don`t think. The play is the same sluggish slow, pass, pass, pass go nowhere football we saw for most of the last four months of last season. No real spark anywhere in the team. Barely stringing together half a dozen passes, before gifting the ball back to the opposition.
Hung in at Man City to take a very fortunate point, but the truth is Spurs were totally outclassed. Transition obviously takes time, but I saw very little real fight at the weekend. Need a really huge performance against Newcastle this coming weekend.
I am usually very optimistic, but I am seeing nothing new this season that fills me with any confidence that this will be a better season than the past four seasons. Going to be a real struggle in my opinion to get top four. I hope I am wrong, but Man United and Arsenal both look much stronger, Chelsea are still very good, and then you have Liverpool and Man City, not forgetting teams like Leicester and Wolves. I thought Leicester were absolutely superb yesterday at Chelsea, full of energy, pace, creating chances for fun, they looked everything that Spurs used to be. Maddison would have done wonders to our midfield.
Anyway hey ho it is what it is, only two games gone, so may be room for a lot of improvement yet. But the problem with the Prem, you cannot afford to drop off the pace, the top teams don`t lose that many games, so you have to keep up with them from the off.
I shall however be at WHL to cheer them on as usual at the weekend, here`s hoping for a good win, a decent performance, and finally get to see Lo Celso. COYS.
Bit worrying what is coming out
posted on 19/8/19
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
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comment by Christopher (U20930)
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comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
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comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago
Ted.. why on earth would we increase Eriksen's salary and not tie him to a longer contract, if even it's just an extra year?
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Because he won't go for a longer contract ... haven't you read what he is saying?
He's be gone by now if RM had offered him a job.
Howver, Levy can try what you're suggesting .... and just pissssss him off some more!
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Eriksen knows how ridiculous it would be to do what you're suggesting. Has that ever even happened in football?
You think he's sat at home fuming because we aren't offering to up his wages and let him leave anyway?
Jesus christ man
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RM has not offered him a job. Juve is said to be interested, but no offer.
He's probably stuck here another year ...... as Pochettino says, wait till the transfer window ends.
Now I'm suggesting a sweetner, to get him in the mood to accept a longer stay at Spurs than he wants, and get back to playing good football.
Understand now?
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No because it's a stupid idea.
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Oh, is that all you can say?
Where are the offers?
Who's Levy going to sell him to, that he wants to go to?
Who does Levy replace him with?
Answer those questions
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None of those things mean that we should up his wages without extending him
posted on 19/8/19
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago
Ted.. why on earth would we increase Eriksen's salary and not tie him to a longer contract, if even it's just an extra year?
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Because he won't go for a longer contract ... haven't you read what he is saying?
He's be gone by now if RM had offered him a job.
Howver, Levy can try what you're suggesting .... and just pissssss him off some more!
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Eriksen knows how ridiculous it would be to do what you're suggesting. Has that ever even happened in football?
You think he's sat at home fuming because we aren't offering to up his wages and let him leave anyway?
Jesus christ man
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RM has not offered him a job. Juve is said to be interested, but no offer.
He's probably stuck here another year ...... as Pochettino says, wait till the transfer window ends.
Now I'm suggesting a sweetner, to get him in the mood to accept a longer stay at Spurs than he wants, and get back to playing good football.
Understand now?
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No because it's a stupid idea.
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Oh, is that all you can say?
Where are the offers?
Who's Levy going to sell him to, that he wants to go to?
Who does Levy replace him with?
Answer those questions
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None of those things mean that we should up his wages without extending him
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Good Grief Can't you understand ...
1. He wont go for an extension.
2. We need him.
Enough with you!
posted on 19/8/19
1. He wont go for an extension.
2. We need him.
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So, just for clarity Ted. Your understanding is that if we pay him more he won't want to leave now, but will still leave next summer?
The problem I'm having with that is two-fold.
1. A pay raise necessitates a new contract anyway.
2. It sets a terrible precedent for rewarding players that don't want to be here.
posted on 19/8/19
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 20 minutes ago
1. He wont go for an extension.
2. We need him.
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So, just for clarity Ted. Your understanding is that if we pay him more he won't want to leave now, but will still leave next summer?
The problem I'm having with that is two-fold.
1. A pay raise necessitates a new contract anyway.
2. It sets a terrible precedent for rewarding players that don't want to be here.
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1. The new contract does not have to be anything constricting ... it could say "you can leave at any time", but of course Levy would never write that!
2. That is a worrying aspect of the whole thing, I agree.
One thing is that it only sets a precedent for players of Eriksen's calibre. Anyone less, Levy tells them to Faaack off.
But for another top player, its a case by case basis.
All-in-all, given where we are ATM, and wanting to win something this season, I'd do a deal with Eriksen and take the risk that he won't change his mind by next season.
You Never Know!
posted on 19/8/19
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago
Ted.. why on earth would we increase Eriksen's salary and not tie him to a longer contract, if even it's just an extra year?
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Because he won't go for a longer contract ... haven't you read what he is saying?
He's be gone by now if RM had offered him a job.
Howver, Levy can try what you're suggesting .... and just pissssss him off some more!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Eriksen knows how ridiculous it would be to do what you're suggesting. Has that ever even happened in football?
You think he's sat at home fuming because we aren't offering to up his wages and let him leave anyway?
Jesus christ man
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RM has not offered him a job. Juve is said to be interested, but no offer.
He's probably stuck here another year ...... as Pochettino says, wait till the transfer window ends.
Now I'm suggesting a sweetner, to get him in the mood to accept a longer stay at Spurs than he wants, and get back to playing good football.
Understand now?
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No because it's a stupid idea.
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Oh, is that all you can say?
Where are the offers?
Who's Levy going to sell him to, that he wants to go to?
Who does Levy replace him with?
Answer those questions
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None of those things mean that we should up his wages without extending him
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Good GriefCan't you understand ...
1. He wont go for an extension.
2. We need him.
Enough with you!
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How does that mean we should increase his wages
Unreal
posted on 19/8/19
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago
Ted.. why on earth would we increase Eriksen's salary and not tie him to a longer contract, if even it's just an extra year?
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Because he won't go for a longer contract ... haven't you read what he is saying?
He's be gone by now if RM had offered him a job.
Howver, Levy can try what you're suggesting .... and just pissssss him off some more!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Eriksen knows how ridiculous it would be to do what you're suggesting. Has that ever even happened in football?
You think he's sat at home fuming because we aren't offering to up his wages and let him leave anyway?
Jesus christ man
----------------------------------------------------------------------
RM has not offered him a job. Juve is said to be interested, but no offer.
He's probably stuck here another year ...... as Pochettino says, wait till the transfer window ends.
Now I'm suggesting a sweetner, to get him in the mood to accept a longer stay at Spurs than he wants, and get back to playing good football.
Understand now?
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No because it's a stupid idea.
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Oh, is that all you can say?
Where are the offers?
Who's Levy going to sell him to, that he wants to go to?
Who does Levy replace him with?
Answer those questions
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None of those things mean that we should up his wages without extending him
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Good GriefCan't you understand ...
1. He wont go for an extension.
2. We need him.
Enough with you!
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How does that mean we should increase his wages
Unreal
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Read my reply to Bales ..... he's a grown-up!
posted on 19/8/19
I read it and its still a terrible idea
posted on 19/8/19
Yeah I see what you're saying Ted, but really it only gives us a few months of committed Eriksen. If that. Without an extension he could still sign a pre-contract deal with clubs in Europe in January. So we'd have that distraction, and him not wanting to get injured.
We also face similar issues with Jan and Toby, like you say Levy could tell them to faack off but then we have a much bigger problem than we started with.
My take is we give him a fat new 3 year contract, chuck in a RM release clause if that's what it takes. If he doesn't want to stay we should look to sell to the highest bidder.
posted on 19/8/19
To sum up ........
Given our current injury list, and the fact that even when those players are back, new injuries will occur - Kane, lets say, yet again!
I'd say Levy is stuck in a corner. RB is an obvious weakness every team is going to attack.
We need every top player we've got, or we're looking at top6 with an outside chance of top 4. So Levy has to do a deal with Eriksen, that keeps him content, even for one year.
Perhaps Sissoko can be persuaded to play RB if Lo Celso pans out - TBD.
I bet Levy wishes he'd gotten Dybala ... that would have been a great big plus!
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posted on 19/8/19
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 8 minutes ago
Yeah I see what you're saying Ted, but really it only gives us a few months of committed Eriksen. If that. Without an extension he could still sign a pre-contract deal with clubs in Europe in January. So we'd have that distraction, and him not wanting to get injured.
We also face similar issues with Jan and Toby, like you say Levy could tell them to faack off but then we have a much bigger problem than we started with.
My take is we give him a fat new 3 year contract, chuck in a RM release clause if that's what it takes. If he doesn't want to stay we should look to sell to the highest bidder.
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I'm hoping Eriksen's head will turn back our way again. I like your idea of 3 years with some "out"s. ATM the bidding for Eriksen has gone quiet .... RM seem to be out, but there is interest from Italian clubs. Dunno if he wants to go there?
I would never tell Jan or Toby to Faack off, not this year! But I'll bet that's what's going on with Jan, he's 32 now.