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Ian Holloway

According to this bloke, it’s the EU’s fault for the new handball rule that ruled out Sterling’s goal on Saturday..

https://twitter.com/sachinnakrani/status/1163927059699326976?s=21

posted on 21/8/19

He got most of absolutely everything he asked for, VC.

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Obviously not enough.

posted on 21/8/19

Absolutely. The referendum was a straight-up mistake.

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No it wasn't. The mistake was Cameron thinking remaining was a shoo in.

posted on 21/8/19

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
Absolutely. The referendum was a straight-up mistake.

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No it wasn't. The mistake was Cameron thinking remaining was a shoo in.
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I do think it was it mistake but I'd also agree there was complacency by Cameron as well.

posted on 21/8/19

I do think it was it mistake

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I found it rather refreshing that the Torries actually followed through with one of their election promises.

Blair and Brown didn't on this issue.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

posted on 21/8/19

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 9 minutes ago
I do think it was it mistake

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I found it rather refreshing that the Torries actually followed through with one of their election promises.

Blair and Brown didn't on this issue.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
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Hindsight is great. I've no problem with the Tories following through with an election promise either. However, I do think it was a mistake because no one really knew enough about the EU to make a truly informed decision IMO. That goes for both sides.

posted on 21/8/19

Cameron wasn’t particularly dissatisfied with the concessions he got from the EU, which is why he wanted to remain. He stupidly called a referendum to appease the voters the Conservatives were taking from UKIP.

posted on 21/8/19

If I'd know it was going to lead to that fecking VAR'd handball disallowed goal shiyte on Saturday I would never have voted remain. That's me for no deal now all the way. Ian Hollowhead legend, we want our country back. Feck croissants and foreigners. Except of course KDB, Bernardo, Aguero and a few others.

posted on 21/8/19

comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
Cameron wasn’t particularly dissatisfied with the concessions he got from the EU, which is why he wanted to remain. He stupidly called a referendum to appease the voters the Conservatives were taking from UKIP.
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All one giant massive mess just to appease some of the far right who were gaining some ground. That would have been better nipped in the bud than appeased. They just got a whiff of importance/power and then it blew upnfrom there.

What should have been done then, IMO, is investigate why the right were gaining ground. I think it was a mix of certain elements of the media and the perceived PC cilture' that the very same media did nothing to discourage.

I'm still susprised that such a diverse UK saw foreigners as being the cause of some problems having been served so well by immigrants over the years.

posted on 21/8/19

Easier to shift blame away than to accept responsibility for your failing government.

posted on 21/8/19

comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
Easier to shift blame away than to accept responsibility for your failing government.
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Ah yes. The government will always try to shift blame if possible. One of the good things about our democracy, a chance to change things in an election every five years, is also a negative in a way as you'll not find a government in power who is willing to take hard decisions to begin with for longer term prosperity by playing the long game.

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